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From: "Scott Robert Ladd" <scott@coyotegulch.com>
To: <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: RE: C++ binary compatibility between GCC 3.1 and GCC 3.2?
Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2002 06:28:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <FKEAJLBKJCGBDJJIPJLJAEBOCLAA.scott@coyotegulch.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <26270000.1025904927@gandalf.codesourcery.com>

Perhaps I'm a bit out-of-line by dropping into this debate, but I see some
nasty trends that are "bad" for the entire free software movement.

MM> Because our goal is to produce minor releases
MM> that fix critical bugs.

How does the above statement play with something Mark Mitchell said in an
earlier post:

MM> Yes, the implementation had some bugs.  It was
MM> also the case that the ABI specification had some
MM> bugs/omissions/unclarities.

If the ABI specification is buggy, shouldn't such "bugs" be fixed in an
interim release, i.e., 3.1.1?

The ABI is fundamental, and if changes must be made, sooner is far better
than later.

MM> It's not the job of the FSF maintainers to do this.

I submit that this may be true in an absolute sense, but such an attitude
fails to recognize the importance of gcc. gcc is the foundation of free and
open software; if that foundation keeps shifting, it increases risk and
stress for those building upon it.

MM> Adding in new, not nearly as well-tested ABI changes,
MM> one week for a release is simply not going to happen.

The perhaps the release schedule is unrealistic?

..Scott
(Who'd love to help with gcc if he could figure out where to stick his
nose...)

Scott Robert Ladd
Coyote Gulch Productions,  http://www.coyotegulch.com
No ads -- just very free (and somewhat unusual) code.

  reply	other threads:[~2002-07-06 11:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-07-04  9:55 Andreas Jaeger
2002-07-04 10:23 ` H. J. Lu
2002-07-05 14:17 ` Mark Mitchell
2002-07-05 14:22   ` Andreas Jaeger
2002-07-05 14:28     ` Mark Mitchell
2002-07-05 14:53       ` David O'Brien
2002-07-05 15:08         ` Mark Mitchell
2002-07-06  5:34           ` Andreas Jaeger
2002-07-06  6:40             ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2002-07-06  6:40               ` Jakub Jelinek
2002-07-06  7:20                 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2002-07-06  7:53                   ` Andreas Jaeger
2002-07-06  8:54                     ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2002-07-06 11:04                     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-07-06  7:42                 ` Andreas Jaeger
2002-07-06 11:08                   ` Jeff Law
2002-07-06 11:10                     ` Gwenole Beauchesne
2002-07-06  6:19         ` Daniel Egger
2002-07-05 14:46   ` David O'Brien
2002-07-05 15:02     ` H. J. Lu
2002-07-05 15:12       ` David O'Brien
2002-07-05 15:20         ` H. J. Lu
2002-07-05 16:11           ` Stan Shebs
2002-07-05 16:12             ` David Edelsohn
2002-07-05 16:35               ` Stan Shebs
2002-07-05 22:18               ` Geoff Keating
2002-07-07 23:14               ` Mark Mitchell
2002-07-05 15:02     ` Mark Mitchell
2002-07-06  6:28       ` Scott Robert Ladd [this message]
2002-07-06  4:56     ` Andreas Jaeger
2002-07-06  6:44       ` Gerald Pfeifer
2002-07-06  7:35         ` Andreas Jaeger
2002-07-06 11:44         ` David O'Brien
2002-07-05 22:35 ` David Edelsohn
2002-07-06  5:40 ` Joseph S. Myers
2002-07-06  6:40   ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2002-07-06  7:49     ` Andreas Jaeger
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-07-10  4:24 Iain McClatchie
2002-07-08 10:09 Ben Woodhead
2002-07-08  9:02 Bernard Dautrevaux
2002-07-08 13:03 ` Bernard Dautrevaux
2002-07-10  7:32 ` Bernard Dautrevaux
2002-07-12  3:09 ` Bernard Dautrevaux
2002-07-12 13:50 ` Bernard Dautrevaux
2002-07-08  3:42 Bernard Dautrevaux
2002-07-08  4:07 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2002-07-08  6:28 ` Joern Rennecke
2002-07-08 13:05 ` Bernard Dautrevaux
2002-07-10  7:33 ` Bernard Dautrevaux
2002-07-12  4:27 ` Bernard Dautrevaux
2002-07-12 13:53 ` Bernard Dautrevaux
2002-07-06 15:47 Joern Rennecke
2002-07-06 16:09 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2002-07-07  8:03   ` Joern Rennecke
     [not found] <3900A36C.18989ED4@apple.com>
2000-04-21 17:17 ` [patch] beginnings of the macro rewrite Horst von Brand
2000-04-22 10:33   ` Zack Weinberg
2000-04-22 20:13     ` Marc Espie
2000-04-22 20:20     ` Neil Booth
2000-04-24  8:57     ` Michael Meissner
2000-04-24 17:54       ` Russ Allbery
2000-04-27 15:54     ` Philipp Thomas
2000-04-27 17:32       ` Joe Buck
2000-04-24 23:38   ` Martin Kahlert

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