* VCG or GNUVCG or GVCG or GViz?
@ 2002-10-19 11:57 James Michael DuPont
2002-10-19 13:18 ` PATCH for " Gerald Pfeifer
0 siblings, 1 reply; 2+ messages in thread
From: James Michael DuPont @ 2002-10-19 11:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: gcc
Dear GCC developers,
I am writing to you again about the VCG tool,
and about this webpage:
http://www.gnu.org/software/gcc/news/egcs-vcg.html
First of all,
What I would like to know from you all, in form of a simple
voting is if you support the renaming of vcg to GnuVCG, GVCG or
GNUViz?
I would like to put the gnu name in the project, but need some support
on that.
The savannah maintains told me that I cannot have the GNU name yet,
so If you think it a good idea, please just send me "I support" mail,
if I get enough of them, then I will go back them with a list of
signatures.
Second of all, about this page,
Sorry for writing to everyone, there was not any responsable name on
the web page.
>>Please send comments on these web pages and GCC to gcc@gnu.org or
>>gcc@gcc.gnu.org, send other questions to gnu@gnu.org.
>Programs to draw graphs from a textual input exist quite a few and at
>one of them are freely available (one even comes with all the source
>code). Currently known are daVinci and VCG. So far only VCG is
>supported but we certainly accept patches.
Well, davinci "http://www.tzi.de/~davinci/"
has been sold off.
From the FAQ:
Q: Can I get the sources of daVinci?
A: Sorry, but only the binary distribution of daVinci is public
available.
>>Where to get?
>>If you have a GCC later than 2.92.22 you have the necessary changes
>>to the compiler. There is no up-to-date patch for older version of
>>the compiler so you have to update to GCC in any case.
>You also need the VCG program. The original version is available here.
>The problem with this version is that it has a few little bugs. A
>corrected version is available.
The links to the corrected version are broken, can you please send me
the patch?
>>Oh, did we mention that you have to run a Unix with X Windows? Go
>>away, Windows Weenies!
This is pretty nice way to insult people.
I am planning out a port of VCG to GTK right now, then it will work on
windows for windows weenies.
Mike
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* PATCH for Re: VCG or GNUVCG or GVCG or GViz?
2002-10-19 11:57 VCG or GNUVCG or GVCG or GViz? James Michael DuPont
@ 2002-10-19 13:18 ` Gerald Pfeifer
0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread
From: Gerald Pfeifer @ 2002-10-19 13:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: James Michael DuPont; +Cc: gcc, gcc-patches
On Fri, 18 Oct 2002, James Michael DuPont wrote:
> I am writing to you again about the VCG tool,
> and about this webpage:
> http://www.gnu.org/software/gcc/news/egcs-vcg.html
We usually try to avoid "rewriting history", and I am fully aware that
with some of these updates the page is less useful than before, but I
agree that the previous state of that page was really unacceptable.
Installed with the following CVS log:
Remove the worst offences of the GNU and GCC project guidelines and
styles.
Gerald
Index: egcs-vcg.html
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvs/gcc/wwwdocs/htdocs/news/egcs-vcg.html,v
retrieving revision 1.9
diff -u -3 -p -r1.9 egcs-vcg.html
--- egcs-vcg.html 23 Jan 2002 15:42:30 -0000 1.9
+++ egcs-vcg.html 19 Oct 2002 12:39:14 -0000
@@ -7,16 +7,17 @@
<body>
<h1>Drawing Flow Graphs</h1>
- <p>November 23, 1998.</p>
+ <p>November 23, 1998.<br />
+ updated October 19, 2002</p>
<p>Ulrich Drepper has contributed support for automatic generation
of graphical flow graph representation.</p>
- <p><code>GCC</code> now contains some code which allows to emit
+ <p>GCC now contains some code which allows to emit
information to allow a graphical representation of the flow
graphs.</p>
- <p>Traditionally <code>gcc</code> has the capability to dump
+ <p>Traditionally GCC has the capability to dump
information about all the instructions, basic blocks and the
connections between them in textual form. This serves the purpose
quite well but following the logic of the program is quite
@@ -24,12 +25,8 @@
This is annoying especially since the compiler already has all the
information.</p>
- <p>Programs to draw graphs from a textual input exist quite a few
- and at one of them are freely available (one even comes with all
- the source code). Currently known are <a
- href="http://www.tzi.de/~davinci/">daVinci</a> and <a
- href="http://rw4.cs.uni-sb.de/users/sander/html/gsvcg1.html">VCG</a>.
- So far only VCG is supported but we certainly accept patches.</p>
+ <p>Programs to draw graphs from a textual input exist quite a few,
+ and we certainly accept patches to support free ones.</p>
<h2>How does graph dumping work?</h2>
@@ -70,9 +67,9 @@ main (int argc, char *argv[])
</tr>
</table>
- <p>If you want to understand how <em>GCC</em> translates this
- programs you use the <code>-d</code> option to select what <em>GCC</em>
- should dump. E.g., giving <em>GCC</em> the option <code>-da</code> dumps
+ <p>If you want to understand how GCC translates this
+ programs you use the <code>-d</code> option to select what GCC
+ should dump. E.g., giving GCC the option <code>-da</code> dumps
the files:</p>
<table bgcolor="#a0a0a0">
@@ -140,8 +137,8 @@ Registers live at start: 6 7 25
and so on is available but not the the most human friendly
form.</p>
- <p>This is where the new <code>GCC</code> features come into play.
- If you add the option <code>-dv</code> (`v' for <em>VCG</em>) to your
+ <p>This is where the new GCC features come into play.
+ If you add the option <code>-dv</code> to your
commandline you get a handful of extra files:</p>
<table bgcolor="#a0a0a0">
@@ -160,46 +157,19 @@ test.c.cse.vcg test.c.greg.vcg t
</tr>
</table>
- <p>These files can be fed into the <em>VCG</em> program (actually
- called <code>xvcg</code>). If you do this you'll see a window like
- this:</p>
+ <p>If you few these files using a suitable program, you'll get output
+ similar to the following:</p>
<center><img src="vcg1.png" alt="completely folded graph" width="112" height="41" /></center>
<p>These are nodes representing all the functions in the file. If
- you read the <em>VCG</em> manual and find out how to expand the
- nodes you can get a picture like <a href="vcg2.png">this</a>. If
- you need more details you can unfold the basic block nodes as
- well. There are some more tricks the program can do, it's worth
- reading the manual.</p>
+ you expand the nodes you can get a picture like
+ <a href="vcg2.png">this</a>.</p>
<h2>Where to get?</h2>
- <p>If you have a <code>GCC</code> later than 2.92.22 you have the
- necessary changes to the compiler. There is no up-to-date patch
- for older version of the compiler so you have to update to
- <code>GCC</code> in any case.</p>
-
- <p>You also need the <em>VCG</em> program. The original version is
- available <a
- href="ftp://ftp.cs.uni-sb.de/pub/graphics/vcg/vcg.1.30.r3.17.tgz">here</a>.
- The problem with this version is that it has a few little bugs. A <a
- href="ftp://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/infrastructure/vcg.1.30.r3.17-cygnus.tgz">
- corrected version is available</a>.</p>
-
- <p>Oh, did we mention that you have to run a Unix with X Windows?
- Go away, Windows Weenies!</p>
-
- <h2>Feedback!?</h2>
-
- <p>What we don't want to hear about is installation with vcg. We
- haven't written this program, it works for us. That's all.</p>
-
- <p>What I would like to hear about is what should be displayed
- beside what currently is. We already have some extensions in mind
- but there might be more. We probably need a way for selecting
- what information should be dumped since the more you dump, the less
- readable the graphs are. I have not yet sorted this out.</p>
+ <p>If you have GCC later than 2.92.22 you have the
+ necessary changes to the compiler.</p>
</body>
</html>
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