From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 1116 invoked by alias); 20 Jan 2004 23:22:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: Sender: gcc-owner@gcc.gnu.org Received: (qmail 1073 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2004 23:22:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at) (128.131.111.2) by sources.redhat.com with SMTP; 20 Jan 2004 23:22:31 -0000 Received: from [128.131.111.60] (acrux [128.131.111.60]) by vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65DB813787; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 00:22:29 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 23:22:00 -0000 From: Gerald Pfeifer To: Marc Espie Cc: Robert Dewar , gcc@gcc.gnu.org Subject: Re: gcc 3.5 integration branch proposal In-Reply-To: <20040120074606.GA1342@tetto.gentiane.org> Message-ID: References: <90200277-4301-11D8-BDBD-000A95B1F520@apple.com> <200401192207.58846.ebotcazou@libertysurf.fr> <1074546942.11041.8.camel@dzur.sfbay.redhat.com> <200401192246.52526.ebotcazou@libertysurf.fr> <1074550095.28477.35.camel@pc> <20040119222845.GA26266@tetto.gentiane.org> <400CA445.8090102@gnat.com> <20040120074606.GA1342@tetto.gentiane.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-SW-Source: 2004-01/txt/msg01587.txt.bz2 On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Marc Espie wrote: > Show me anything that isn't Intel-based with this kind of performance/cost > ratio. AMD offerings? > Then we'd better simply stop writing code for sparc64, powerpc, hppa, > and declare them totally dead. My personal view is that SPARC is going to die rather sooner than later (if you see what Sun is doing and how badly these processors have been performing for the last 9 years I've been following them) and hppa is a dead end. PowerPC, now that's something completely different! I fully agree with you that we should strongly care about compile-time performance -- and in fact I have been one of the strongest proponents towards that end during the last couple of years. However, I agree with Robert that there should be a minimum configuration which we can assume, and if someone wants to use a VAX or a 80386 to run GCC -- fine, but that cannot be our main focus. Gerald -- Gerald Pfeifer (Jerry) gerald@pfeifer.com http://www.pfeifer.com/gerald/