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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
To: Gabriel Dos Reis <gdr@codesourcery.com>
Cc: Fergus Henderson <fjh@cs.mu.oz.au>,
	<moshier@moshier.ne.mediaone.net>, <tprince@computer.org>,
	<gcc@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: What is acceptable for -ffast-math? (Was: associative law in  combine)
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 18:10:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0107311011440.1188-100000@penguin.transmeta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fln15leagh.fsf@jambon.cmla.ens-cachan.fr>

On 31 Jul 2001, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote:
> |
> | Yeah. And as Linus once said: most numerical problems today in pure CPU
> | cycles are actually 3D games.
>
> Then Linus need to be educated about numerical problems.

You want to bet?

Sure, go ahead and count up your supercomputers, and I'll try to estimate
how many PS2's etc there are in the world.

That's by CPU cycles - I think you'll lose. Big.

Do the same by economic factors, and I suspect you're on slippery ground
too.

Do the same by number of users, and I _know_ you're done for.

I know, it's nice and comfy up in your ivory tower. Go on, ignore the rest
of the world..

		Linus

  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-07-31 18:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-07-29 12:14 * Re: What is acceptable for -ffast-math? (Was: associative law incombine) Stephen L Moshier
2001-07-29 12:52 ` * Re: What is acceptable for -ffast-math? (Was: associative lawin combine) Linus Torvalds
2001-07-29 14:03   ` What is acceptable for -ffast-math? (Was: associative law incombine) Stephen L Moshier
2001-07-29 21:08     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-07-29 21:17     ` What is acceptable for -ffast-math? (Was: associative law in combine) Fergus Henderson
2001-07-30  0:23       ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-07-30 11:37         ` What is acceptable for -ffast-math? (Was: associative law incombine) Linus Torvalds
2001-07-30 11:53           ` What is acceptable for -ffast-math? (Was: associative law in combine) Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-07-30 18:40             ` Olivier Galibert
2001-07-30 19:06               ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-07-31  1:35             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-07-31  2:04               ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-07-31  2:35                 ` Olivier Galibert
2001-07-31  2:58                   ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-07-31 18:10                 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2001-07-29 15:43   ` * " Gabriel Dos Reis
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-08-03 14:48 dewar
2001-08-02  3:37 Vincent Penquerc'h
2001-08-01 19:04 Carlo Wood
2001-08-01 12:06 Phil Edwards
2001-08-01 10:39 dewar
2001-08-01 10:38 dewar
2001-08-01 10:13 dewar
2001-08-01 10:05 dewar
2001-08-01 10:04 dewar
2001-08-01 10:28 ` Gabriel Dos_Reis
2001-08-01  9:59 dewar
2001-08-01  9:58 What is acceptable for -ffast-math? (Was: associative law incombine) Gabriel Dos_Reis
2001-08-01 10:08 ` Wolfgang Bangerth
2001-08-01 11:12   ` Gabriel Dos_Reis
2001-08-01 11:27     ` What is acceptable for -ffast-math? (Was: associative law in combine) Theodore Papadopoulo
2001-08-01 11:47       ` Gabriel Dos_Reis
2001-08-03  7:32         ` Nick Ing-Simmons
2001-08-03  6:01     ` Per Abrahamsen
2001-08-01  6:52 dewar
2001-08-01  6:04 dewar
2001-08-01  6:48 ` Vincent Penquerc'h
2001-08-03  0:46 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-08-01  3:02 Vincent Penquerc'h
2001-07-31 19:10 dewar
2001-07-31 18:23 dewar
2001-07-31 18:20 dewar
2001-07-31 18:50 ` Joern Rennecke
2001-07-31 21:27   ` Tim Prince
2001-07-31 18:15 dewar
2001-07-31 18:12 What is acceptable for -ffast-math? (Was: associative law incombine) Linus Torvalds
2001-07-31 20:55 ` What is acceptable for -ffast-math? (Was: associative law in combine) Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-07-31 17:37 dewar
2001-07-31 16:38 dewar
2001-07-31  9:22 mike stump
2001-07-31  8:37 dewar
2001-07-31  8:36 dewar
2001-07-31  8:36 mike stump
2001-07-31  8:35 dewar
2001-07-31  8:19 mike stump
2001-07-31  7:59 mike stump
2001-07-31  7:26 dewar
2001-07-31 15:57 ` Toon Moene
2001-07-31 21:55   ` Tim Prince
2001-08-03  6:12 ` Per Abrahamsen
2001-07-30 21:13 dewar
2001-07-30 21:34 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-07-30 21:43   ` Joern Rennecke
2001-07-30 21:53     ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-08-03  7:12       ` Nick Ing-Simmons
2001-08-01  8:55   ` Theodore Papadopoulo
2001-08-01  9:15     ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-08-01 11:21       ` Theodore Papadopoulo
2001-08-01 11:44         ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-08-01  9:24     ` Tim Hollebeek
2001-08-01  9:54       ` What is acceptable for -ffast-math? (Was: associative law incombine) Linus Torvalds
2001-08-01 10:26         ` Gabriel Dos_Reis
2001-08-01 11:13           ` What is acceptable for -ffast-math? (Was: associative law in combine) Alexandre Oliva
2001-08-01 11:36             ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-08-01 12:07               ` Alexandre Oliva
2001-08-01 13:21                 ` Gabriel Dos_Reis
2001-08-01 14:20                   ` Toon Moene
2001-07-30 20:54 dewar
2001-07-30 21:11 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-07-30 21:39 ` Joern Rennecke
2001-07-30 19:46 dewar
2001-07-30 20:00 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-07-30 20:20   ` Alexandre Oliva
2001-07-30 20:25     ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-07-30 18:39 dewar
2001-07-30 18:38 dewar
2001-07-30 18:08 dewar
2001-07-30 18:02 dewar
2001-07-30 18:00 dewar
2001-07-30 18:25 ` Joe Buck
2001-07-30 16:11 dewar
2001-07-30 16:29 ` Alexandre Oliva
2001-07-31  8:13   ` Kevin Handy
2001-07-30 15:29 dewar
2001-07-30 15:39 ` Toon Moene
2001-07-30 13:10 dewar
2001-07-30 12:26 dewar
2001-07-30 11:52 dewar
2001-07-30  8:59 mike stump
2001-07-30  6:14 dewar
2001-07-30  8:30 ` Kevin Handy
2001-07-30  6:01 dewar
2001-07-30  6:53 ` Tim Hollebeek
2001-07-30  6:00 dewar
2001-07-30 13:08 ` Toon Moene
2001-07-30  5:57 dewar
2001-07-29 21:33 What is acceptable for -ffast-math? (Was: associative law incombine) Linus Torvalds
2001-07-30 14:43 ` What is acceptable for -ffast-math? (Was: associative law in combine) Alexandre Oliva
2001-07-30 15:45   ` Neil Booth
2001-07-30 16:03     ` Alexandre Oliva
2001-07-30 16:11       ` Neil Booth
2001-07-30 16:28         ` Alexandre Oliva
2001-07-30 19:08   ` Joern Rennecke
2001-07-30 19:22     ` Alexandre Oliva
2001-07-30 19:29       ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-07-30 19:34         ` Alexandre Oliva
2001-07-30 19:54           ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-07-30 19:27     ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-07-29 14:22 dewar
2001-07-17 15:59 associative law in combine Joern Rennecke
2001-07-18  1:01 ` Toon Moene
2001-07-18  1:47   ` What is acceptable for -ffast-math? (Was: associative law in combine) Jan Hubicka
2001-07-28 23:04     ` Tim Prince
2001-07-29  6:33       ` Jan Hubicka
2001-07-29 10:18         ` Tim Prince
2001-07-29 10:26           ` Jan Hubicka
2001-07-29 12:11             ` Tim Prince
2001-07-29 12:17               ` Jan Hubicka
2001-07-29 10:50       ` Linus Torvalds

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