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From: Kevin Atkinson <kevina@gnu.org>
To: Robert Dewar <dewar@gnat.com>
Cc: Peter.Sasi@t-systems.co.hu, <aj@suse.de>, <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>,
	<tjw@omnigroup.com>
Subject: Re: [GCC 3.x] Performance testing for QA
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 14:05:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0209031659490.26207-100000@kevin-pc.atkinson.dhs.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020903205525.B8861F2941@nile.gnat.com>

On Tue, 3 Sep 2002, Robert Dewar wrote:

> <<The type of operations that encoder decoders use (lots of arithmetic and
> data movement) should somehow be incorporate as a benchmark test gcc
> should optimize for.  The ideal goal would be to make the code fast enough
> that hand written assembly would not be necessary.  Thus using an encoder as
> a benchmark would be beneficial.  Even if it concentrates on tight loops.
> >>
> 
> You need to remember that it is trivial to make a compiler make any ONE
> simple program as fast as optimal assembly language.

Than you need to use a wide variety of encoders to avoid this problem.  
Also since the source code for gcc is freely available such a thing will
not go unnoticed for long. I seams that you are trying to say that making
tight loops run fast is a pointless exercise by the compiler.  If a large
number of programs tend to use a particular type of loop than optimizing
for those loops would be a huge win in terms of performance.

--- 
http://kevin.atkinson.dhs.org

  reply	other threads:[~2002-09-03 21:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-09-03 13:55 Robert Dewar
2002-09-03 14:05 ` Kevin Atkinson [this message]
2002-09-03 14:12 ` Dale Johannesen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-09-03 14:25 Robert Dewar
2002-09-03 14:15 Robert Dewar
2002-09-03 13:56 Robert Dewar
2002-09-03 13:36 Robert Dewar
2002-09-03 13:41 ` Kevin Atkinson
2002-09-03 13:25 Robert Dewar
2002-09-03 13:31 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-09-03 14:28   ` Jan Hubicka
2002-09-02 15:50 Robert Dewar
2002-09-02 15:49 Robert Dewar
2002-09-03 10:32 ` Dale Johannesen
2002-09-03 11:17 ` Kevin Atkinson
2002-09-02 14:47 Robert Dewar
2002-09-02 15:42 ` Timothy J. Wood
2002-09-02  6:12 Sasi Péter
2002-09-02 14:08 ` Andreas Jaeger

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