From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25940 invoked by alias); 23 May 2003 15:30:24 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: Sender: gcc-owner@gcc.gnu.org Received: (qmail 25921 invoked from network); 23 May 2003 15:30:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO purple.csi.cam.ac.uk) (131.111.8.4) by sources.redhat.com with SMTP; 23 May 2003 15:30:23 -0000 Received: from student.cusu.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.179.82] helo=kern.srcf.societies.cam.ac.uk) by purple.csi.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19JEUv-0007lQ-Cs; Fri, 23 May 2003 16:30:21 +0100 Received: from jsm28 (helo=localhost) by kern.srcf.societies.cam.ac.uk with local-esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19JEUu-0008Fx-00; Fri, 23 May 2003 16:30:20 +0100 Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 15:31:00 -0000 From: "Joseph S. Myers" X-X-Sender: jsm28@kern.srcf.societies.cam.ac.uk To: Matthias Klose cc: gcc@gcc.gnu.org, debian-gcc@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: license of generated info docs (GFDL?) and man pages In-Reply-To: <16078.13823.915243.161138@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Message-ID: References: <16078.13823.915243.161138@gargle.gargle.HOWL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cam-ScannerAdmin: mail-scanner-support@ucs.cam.ac.uk X-Cam-AntiVirus: Not scanned X-Cam-SpamDetails: X-SW-Source: 2003-05/txt/msg02095.txt.bz2 On Fri, 23 May 2003, Matthias Klose wrote: > Looking at the source of the gcc docs, the GFDL-1.2 is mentioned. In > the generated html docs and in the generated man pages you can re-find > the copyright, but it's absent of the generated info docs. Some > questions: The generated info docs are under the GFDL. Look at the very top of the info files (before the parts that info readers actually show). > - Assuming the description of the options will be generated from a > common description in the sources (in 3.4 or later), will the output > of gcc --help be put under the GFDL as well? If part of the code that goes into GCC (generating --help output) is derived from text in the Texinfo manual, I expect that the relevant part of the manual would need to be GFDL/GPL dual licensed. But we don't have any code that generates --help output from the manual, and GFDL/GPL dual licensing of invoke.texi and the other files involved would be a matter for the FSF. > - Could the GCC project consider to re-license the man pages under a > license, which would Debian allow to distribute these as part of the > gcc package(s)? It is the FSF (i.e., RMS) you need to talk to about any licensing changes. The man pages carefully follow instructions given by the FSF about the correct way to handle man pages generated from GFDL manuals with invariant sections (without actually duplicating those section within every man page); it's for the FSF to make any changes to that licensing. I don't like non-removable Invariant Sections (and think Funding Free Software belongs on the FSF website - where it already is - not in GCC manuals, though I don't see any problem with having a copy of the GPL in the manuals if it were removable) and I know various other GCC maintainers don't like them either, but it's RMS who would need to authorise any licence change; patches (as Zack sent some time ago ) to remove them are useless without prior FSF approval. -- Joseph S. Myers jsm28@cam.ac.uk