From: Michael Matz <matz@suse.de>
To: Alexandre Oliva <aoliva@redhat.com>
Cc: Robert Dewar <dewar@adacore.com>,
Richard Guenther <richard.guenther@gmail.com>,
gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org, gcc@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: Designs for better debug info in GCC
Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 14:23:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0711091219040.23011@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <or8x58eiih.fsf@oliva.athome.lsd.ic.unicamp.br>
Hi,
On Thu, 8 Nov 2007, Alexandre Oliva wrote:
> > If you want to be really sure no arguments disappear (necessary for
> > instance for meaningful use of systemtap) you also need to inhibit
> > some transformations,
>
> I'm not aware of any situations in which we must force an argument not
> to disappear. All of the problems I'm aware of are those in which the
> argument is there, we're just missing debug information for it. If you
> have information about needs for preserving arguments that are actually
> dead, please send it my way.
------------------------------------
static inline int foo(int i)
{
return i-1;
}
int foobar(int j)
{
return foo(j+2);
}
int main(int argc, char **argv)
{
return foobar(argc);
}
------------------------------------
And similar examples. Depending on circumstances the formal argument 'i'
of "foo" might be optimized away. If you want to use systemtap to show
the actual arguments for all calls to foo, even the inlined ones, then you
somehow have to make sure that the value of 'i' itself is not optimized
away. Again, in this specific case, due to the simplicity of the involved
expression, it would theoretically be possible to express this with just
DWARF expressions (relating to the formal argument 'j' of foobar). In
more complicated situtation that's not possible anymore, at which point
you have to force the value of 'i' being live, if you want to be sure that
systemtap works in all cases.
> > during the next months, i.e. improve code quality at -O0 at least to a
> > point it was in the 3.x line of GCC.
>
> Aah, I guess the problem here is all the gimple-introduced temps,
> right? That our current -O0 is more like -O-1? :-)
Indeed :) Perhaps also doing a simple DCE and local regalloc, none of
which inhibits debugging.
Ciao,
Michael.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-11-09 11:28 UTC|newest]
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[not found] <or4pg114h5.fsf@oliva.athome.lsd.ic.unicamp.br>
[not found] ` <84fc9c000711050327x74845c78ya18a3329fcf9e4d2@mail.gmail.com>
2007-11-07 8:03 ` Designs for better debug info in GCC (was: Re: [vta] don't let debug insns get in the way of simple vect reduction) Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-07 16:37 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-11-07 21:43 ` Designs for better debug info in GCC Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-07 23:05 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-11-07 23:28 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-11-08 0:01 ` Mark Mitchell
2007-11-08 0:28 ` David Edelsohn
2007-11-08 5:01 ` Mark Mitchell
2007-11-08 5:15 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-08 18:44 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-23 2:20 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2007-11-23 2:30 ` Richard Guenther
2007-11-23 23:40 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2007-11-23 23:56 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-24 13:52 ` Robert Dewar
2007-11-08 5:44 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-08 18:37 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-08 20:51 ` Andrew Pinski
2007-11-09 1:11 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-09 11:28 ` Robert Dewar
2007-11-08 6:39 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-08 19:13 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-08 20:07 ` Mark Mitchell
2007-11-08 20:14 ` David Daney
2007-11-08 20:41 ` Mark Mitchell
2007-11-09 9:10 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-12 10:55 ` Mark Mitchell
2007-11-12 18:22 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-12 20:08 ` Joe Buck
2007-11-24 22:12 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-24 22:42 ` Richard Kenner
2007-11-12 22:43 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-11-24 1:44 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-13 10:50 ` Mark Mitchell
2007-11-24 4:05 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-13 15:46 ` Michael Matz
2007-11-23 23:56 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-26 18:19 ` Michael Matz
2007-11-27 7:31 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-27 18:33 ` Michael Matz
2007-11-27 20:37 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-08 10:11 ` Richard Guenther
2007-11-08 5:14 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-08 18:28 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-08 19:23 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-11-09 0:08 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-09 1:26 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-11-09 12:22 ` Robert Dewar
2007-11-12 12:59 ` Mark Mitchell
2007-11-12 18:05 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-12 18:09 ` Mark Mitchell
2007-11-24 4:31 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-26 6:10 ` Mark Mitchell
2007-12-05 14:21 ` Diego Novillo
2007-12-05 22:10 ` Joe Buck
2007-12-15 22:51 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-16 6:27 ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-16 12:47 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-17 1:27 ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-17 5:38 ` Joe Buck
2007-12-17 8:20 ` Geert Bosch
2007-12-18 1:24 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-18 2:02 ` Joe Buck
2007-12-18 4:40 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-18 7:45 ` Robert Dewar
2007-12-18 7:56 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-18 13:29 ` Robert Dewar
2007-12-18 22:15 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-18 6:16 ` Robert Dewar
2007-12-18 8:09 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-17 18:33 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-17 17:59 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-17 18:02 ` Diego Novillo
2007-12-17 20:43 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-17 21:20 ` Diego Novillo
2007-12-18 1:01 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-18 1:14 ` Diego Novillo
2007-12-18 5:17 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-18 8:06 ` Kai Henningsen
2007-12-18 8:39 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-18 13:15 ` Diego Novillo
2007-12-18 15:06 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-18 16:22 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-12-18 16:28 ` Robert Dewar
2007-12-18 16:31 ` Andrew Haley
2007-12-18 16:42 ` Robert Dewar
2007-12-18 17:04 ` Andrew Haley
2007-12-18 17:12 ` Richard Kenner
2007-12-18 16:32 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-12-18 16:44 ` Robert Dewar
2007-12-19 4:30 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-19 18:41 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-12-19 19:00 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-12-19 19:53 ` Janis Johnson
2007-12-19 21:17 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-12-20 6:10 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-20 16:52 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-12-20 21:38 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-21 1:54 ` Ian Lance Taylor
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2007-12-21 2:11 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-21 3:16 ` Robert Dewar
2007-12-21 5:10 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-12-21 18:12 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-21 19:32 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-12-21 22:46 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-22 0:07 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-12-22 0:09 ` Andrew Pinski
2007-12-22 3:16 ` Andrew Pinski
2007-12-22 11:44 ` Chris Lattner
2007-12-22 21:27 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-12-23 17:40 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2007-12-22 7:38 ` Robert Dewar
2007-12-22 13:33 ` Andrew Haley
2007-12-22 17:11 ` Robert Dewar
2007-12-31 19:39 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-20 8:00 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-20 8:01 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-20 17:02 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-12-31 16:55 ` Richard Guenther
[not found] ` <y0my7baigdf.fsf@ton.toronto.redhat.com>
2008-01-01 17:31 ` Richard Guenther
2007-12-18 23:19 ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-19 6:07 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-19 6:18 ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-19 16:01 ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-19 16:29 ` Andrew MacLeod
2007-12-19 19:25 ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-19 20:00 ` Andrew MacLeod
2007-12-19 20:40 ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-19 20:00 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-19 21:11 ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-20 5:16 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-20 16:44 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-12-20 20:42 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-19 20:03 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-18 23:31 ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-19 4:35 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-19 16:12 ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-19 19:13 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-19 20:11 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-12-31 14:45 ` Richard Guenther
2007-12-16 22:20 ` Mark Mitchell
2007-11-09 12:31 ` Seongbae Park (박성배, 朴成培)
2007-11-09 12:42 ` Robert Dewar
2007-11-07 17:25 ` Designs for better debug info in GCC (was: Re: [vta] don't let debug insns get in the way of simple vect reduction) Michael Matz
2007-11-07 19:03 ` Designs for better debug info in GCC Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-08 11:22 ` Michael Matz
2007-11-08 15:13 ` Robert Dewar
2007-11-08 16:11 ` H.J. Lu
2007-11-08 16:32 ` Michael Matz
2007-11-08 18:18 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-09 14:23 ` Michael Matz [this message]
2007-11-12 18:17 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-13 14:22 ` Michael Matz
2007-11-24 4:58 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-26 18:10 ` Michael Matz
2007-11-27 3:48 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-08 17:48 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-09 2:09 ` Robert Dewar
2007-11-12 17:52 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-09 2:13 ` Joe Buck
2007-11-09 18:40 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-11-09 19:02 ` Robert Dewar
2007-11-08 16:37 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-13 7:52 Steven Bosscher
2007-11-23 23:40 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-24 10:27 ` Steven Bosscher
2007-11-24 15:08 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-24 15:18 ` Richard Kenner
2007-11-24 20:21 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-24 20:48 ` Bernd Schmidt
2007-11-24 22:01 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-24 22:34 ` Richard Guenther
2007-11-25 1:21 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-25 2:36 ` Richard Guenther
2007-11-26 11:37 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-26 12:38 ` Richard Guenther
2007-11-26 18:10 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-25 0:20 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-24 21:24 ` Richard Kenner
2007-11-24 21:55 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-25 0:39 ` Robert Dewar
2007-12-15 20:32 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-15 21:41 ` Robert Dewar
2007-11-24 16:07 ` Steven Bosscher
2007-11-24 20:11 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-11-24 20:46 ` Richard Guenther
2007-11-26 18:36 J.C. Pizarro
2007-11-26 18:55 ` J.C. Pizarro
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