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From: Mark Wielaard <mark@klomp.org>
To: Richard Biener <richard.guenther@gmail.com>
Cc: David Malcolm <dmalcolm@redhat.com>,
	GCC Development <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>,
	 Julian Seward <sewardj42@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Uninit warnings due to optimizing short-circuit conditionals
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2022 13:29:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a0b6fd4233d1cb5f52986a20e38d8aaf8276629b.camel@klomp.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFiYyc2f5ZCf3_=ix1YYc5vRjZCikJMPAkComM35hnY3-DQJNA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Richard,

On Tue, 2022-02-15 at 08:25 +0100, Richard Biener wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 6:38 PM Mark Wielaard <mark@klomp.org> wrote:
> > Yes. valgrind keeps track of uninitialized bits and propagates them
> > around till "use". Where use is anything that might alter the
> > observable behavior of the program. Which is control flow
> > transfers, conditional moves, addresses used in memory accesses,
> > and data passed to system calls.
> > 
> > This paper describes some of the memcheck tricks:
> > https://valgrind.org/docs/memcheck2005.pdf
> 
> That probably means bugs like 
> https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=63311
> could be resolved as fixed (in valgrind).

I just tried the testcase from that bug and it still replicates with
gcc 11.2.1 and valgrind 3.18.1. And as far as I can see it really
cannot be fixed in valgrind since gcc really generates a conditional
jump based on an uninit variable in this case.

It does look a bit like what Julian described in:

  Memcheck Reloaded
  dealing with compiler-generated branches on undefined values
https://archive.fosdem.org/2020/schedule/event/debugging_memcheck_reloaded/

Which should be able to recover/reconstruct the original control flow.
In cases like:

int result
bool ok = compute_something(&result)
if (ok && result == 42) { ... }

where gcc turns that last line upside down:

if (result == 42 && ok) { ... }

But it doesn't work in this case. Probably because this is a slightly
more complex case involving 3 distinct variables instead of 2.

Cheers,

Mark

  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-15 12:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-14 15:57 David Malcolm
2022-02-14 16:26 ` Jeff Law
2022-02-14 17:10   ` David Malcolm
2022-02-14 16:57 ` Mark Wielaard
2022-02-14 17:20   ` David Malcolm
2022-02-14 17:37     ` Mark Wielaard
2022-02-15  7:25       ` Richard Biener
2022-02-15 12:29         ` Mark Wielaard [this message]
2022-02-15 13:00           ` Julian Seward
2022-02-15 13:28             ` Richard Biener
2022-02-15 21:40               ` David Malcolm

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