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From: Marc Glisse <marc.glisse@inria.fr>
To: gcc@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: adding destroyable objects into Ggc
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 08:37:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1110200903470.2398@laptop-mg.saclay.inria.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111020080753.a895eae452bb25e312ebf617@starynkevitch.net>

On Thu, 20 Oct 2011, Basile Starynkevitch wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 21:17:47 -0700
> Lawrence Crowl <crowl@google.com> wrote:
>
>> Basile Starynkevitch <basile@starynkevitch.net>
>>> I would like to add destroyable objects into Ggc (the GCC garbage
>>> collector, see files gcc/ggc*.[ch]).
>>>
>>> The main motivation is to permit C++ objects to be garbage collected
>>> (I discussed that briefly in the Gcc meeting at Google in London):
>>> adding destroyable object is a prerequisite for that goal.
>>
>> The C++ standard has support for garbage collection, and the general
>> consensus of the committee is that object garbage collected do not
>> execute their destructors.
>
> I don't understand well this decision.

If you just let the objects leak, their destructor is not executed. 
Garbage collection reuses that memory in such a way that you can't notice 
the difference with a leak (except that you don't get OOM).

> PPL [Parma Polyhedra Library] data, like e.g. ppl_Constraint_t [from 
> header <ppl_c.h> that is, using a C API] comes to mind. If you want to 
> share PPL stuff between several passes, it can be very handy to add PPL 
> data inside GTY-ed stuff. If that GTY-ed stuff is deleted by Ggc, and if 
> the PPL destructor (e.g. ppl_delete_Constraint in that case) is not 
> called, you get a memory leak.

Or you could imagine the garbage collector also reclaiming that memory.

> Other usages include other finalized data, like FILE* [if a plugin need 
> a FILE* inside GTY-ed data to be shared by several passes, it would be 
> handy that when the GTY-ed object is deleted, the FILE* is fclosed] or 
> even std::ostringstream or std::ostring-s shared between several passes.

Yes, those are the usual arguments for a finalizer.

-- 
Marc Glisse

  reply	other threads:[~2011-10-20  7:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-18 16:35 Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-18 16:43 ` Duncan Sands
2011-10-18 16:53   ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-18 17:11 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2011-10-18 17:14   ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2011-10-18 17:20   ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-18 17:36     ` Ian Lance Taylor
2011-10-18 17:41   ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-18 17:50     ` Ian Lance Taylor
2011-10-18 17:53       ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-18 18:03         ` Jonathan Wakely
2011-10-18 18:11         ` Ian Lance Taylor
2011-10-18 19:41           ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-18 20:52           ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2011-10-18 19:50         ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2011-10-18 23:11           ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-19  0:49             ` Jonathan Wakely
2011-10-18 19:46     ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2011-10-19  6:04     ` Chiheng Xu
2011-10-19  6:08       ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-19  6:43         ` Chiheng Xu
2011-10-19  6:12       ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2011-10-19  6:17         ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-19  6:22         ` Chiheng Xu
     [not found]         ` <20111019080021.4e1acb3687fc8ceacc2fd7a3@starynkevitch.net>
     [not found]           ` <CAAiZkiB-aXfE8MyY_S6YvecdxgsBnuBHp3JDWx4kirVkQx8w+A@mail.gmail.com>
2011-10-19  7:41             ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2011-10-19  7:43             ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-19 12:14               ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2011-10-19 13:31                 ` Duncan Sands
2011-10-19 22:19                   ` Jonathan Wakely
2011-10-19 15:06         ` David Malcolm
2011-10-20  6:03       ` Lawrence Crowl
2011-10-20  8:29         ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-20  8:37           ` Marc Glisse [this message]
2011-10-20  8:38             ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-20 11:57               ` Marc Glisse
2011-10-20 12:10                 ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-20 15:34                   ` Marc Glisse
2011-10-21  9:03                     ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-21 12:24                       ` Marc Glisse
2011-10-21 12:28                       ` Richard Guenther
2011-10-21 23:53                         ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-22  1:31                           ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2011-10-22 11:20                             ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-23 13:50                           ` Richard Guenther
2011-10-19 15:56     ` Laurynas Biveinis
2011-10-19 16:54       ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-20  8:52         ` Laurynas Biveinis
2011-10-20 12:27           ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-20 12:51             ` Andrew Haley
2011-10-20 14:07               ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-20 13:10             ` Duncan Sands
2011-10-20 14:52               ` Torvald Riegel
2011-10-20 15:14             ` Jonathan Wakely
2011-10-20 15:26               ` Richard Guenther
2011-10-20 17:23               ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-20 18:38                 ` Jonathan Wakely
2011-10-18 18:39 ` Jonathan Wakely
2011-10-18 18:48   ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-18 19:42     ` Jonathan Wakely
2011-10-18 19:45       ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-10-18 22:43         ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2011-10-18 21:24     ` Gabriel Dos Reis

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