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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Daniel Berlin <dberlin@dberlin.org>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	ismail@pardus.org.tr, gcc@gcc.gnu.org,
	        git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Git and GCC
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 18:29:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.0.9999.0712061024090.13796@woody.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4aca3dc20712061004g43f5902cw79bf633917d3ade9@mail.gmail.com>



On Thu, 6 Dec 2007, Daniel Berlin wrote:
>
> I worked on Monotone and other systems that use object stores. for a 
> little while :) In particular, I believe GIT's original object store was 
> based on Monotone, IIRC.

Yes and no. 

Monotone does what git does for the blobs. But there is a big difference 
in how git then does it for everything else too, ie trees and history. 
Tree being in that object store in particular are very important, and one 
of the biggest deals for deltas (actually, for two reasons: most of the 
time they don't change AT ALL if some subdirectory gets no changes and you 
don't need any delta, and even when they do change, it's usually going to 
delta very well, since it's usually just a small part that changes).

> > And then it's going to take forever and a day (ie a "do it overnight"
> > thing). But the end result is that everybody downstream from that
> > repository will get much better packs, without having to spend any effort
> > on it themselves.
> 
> If your forever and a day is spent figuring out which deltas to use,
> you can reduce this significantly.

It's almost all about figuring out the delta. Which is why *not* using 
"-f" (or "--aggressive") is such a big deal for normal operation, because 
then you just skip it all.

		Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2007-12-06 18:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 112+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-12-05 19:08 Daniel Berlin
2007-12-05 19:11 ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-05 19:13 ` NightStrike
2007-12-05 19:16   ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-05 19:36 ` Ollie Wild
2007-12-05 21:40   ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-06  0:01     ` Ollie Wild
2007-12-05 19:36 ` Ismail Dönmez
2007-12-05 20:23 ` Samuel Tardieu
2007-12-05 21:48   ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-05 21:56     ` NightStrike
2007-12-06 18:15       ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-12-06 19:29         ` Vincent Lefevre
2007-12-06 19:31           ` Ismail Dönmez
2007-12-06 20:35           ` Andrey Belevantsev
2007-12-06 20:43             ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-05 21:50   ` Harvey Harrison
2007-12-05 23:34     ` Andreas Schwab
2007-12-05 23:37       ` Harvey Harrison
2007-12-13 16:30         ` Rafael Espindola
2007-12-13 20:31           ` Harvey Harrison
2007-12-06  2:28 ` David Miller
2007-12-06  2:41   ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-06  2:52     ` David Miller
2007-12-06  3:47       ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-06  4:20         ` David Miller
2007-12-06  4:28           ` Harvey Harrison
2007-12-06  4:33           ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-06  4:48             ` David Miller
2007-12-06  5:11               ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-06  5:15                 ` Harvey Harrison
2007-12-06  5:17                   ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-06  6:48                     ` Jon Smirl
2007-12-06  7:15                       ` Jeff King
2007-12-06 14:18                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-12-06 17:39                           ` Jeff King
2007-12-06 18:03                             ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-12-07  6:50                               ` Jeff King
2007-12-07  7:27                                 ` Jeff King
2007-12-06 18:36                             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-06 18:56                               ` Jon Smirl
2007-12-06 19:08                                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-12-06 21:39                                   ` Jon Smirl
2007-12-06 22:08                                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-12-06 22:11                                       ` Jon Smirl
2007-12-06 22:22                                       ` Jon Smirl
2007-12-06 22:30                                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-12-06 22:44                                           ` Jon Smirl
2007-12-07  7:31                               ` Jeff King
2007-12-08  1:49                               ` Harvey Harrison
2007-12-10  9:57                                 ` Gabriel Paubert
2007-12-10 16:09                                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-12-07  3:31                             ` David Miller
2007-12-07  6:39                               ` Jeff King
2007-12-07  7:11                                 ` Jon Smirl
2007-12-07 12:53                                   ` David Miller
2007-12-07 17:24                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-07 20:27                                       ` Giovanni Bajo
2007-12-07 20:49                                         ` Giovanni Bajo
2007-12-07 22:33                                         ` Jakub Narebski
2007-12-07 23:14                                           ` Luke Lu
2007-12-07 23:33                                           ` Giovanni Bajo
2007-12-08  0:47                                             ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-08 12:24                                               ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-08  2:21                                       ` David Miller
2007-12-10 10:15                                     ` David Miller
2007-12-06  6:09                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-06  7:49                   ` Harvey Harrison
2007-12-06  8:12                     ` David Brown
2007-12-06 14:02                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-12-06 12:04                   ` [PATCH] gc --aggressive: make it really aggressive Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-06 13:43                     ` Theodore Tso
2007-12-06 14:15                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-12-06 14:23                     ` Pierre Habouzit
2007-12-06 15:56                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-06 17:08                         ` David Kastrup
2007-12-06 15:31                     ` Harvey Harrison
2007-12-06 15:56                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-06 16:19                       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-06 18:05                   ` Git and GCC Daniel Berlin
2007-12-06 18:29                     ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2007-12-07  2:42                     ` Harvey Harrison
2007-12-07 15:01                       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-07 15:01                         ` Jon Smirl
2007-12-07  4:21                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-12-07  5:22                           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-07  7:08                             ` Jon Smirl
2007-12-07 19:36                               ` Nicolas Pitre
2007-12-06 18:24                   ` NightStrike
2007-12-06 18:46                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-07  5:37                       ` NightStrike
2007-12-06 19:13                   ` Jon Loeliger
2007-12-06 19:40                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-07  0:30                       ` Jakub Narebski
2007-12-06 20:04                     ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-06 21:02                       ` Junio C Hamano
2007-12-06 22:25                         ` David Kastrup
2007-12-06 22:38                           ` [OT] " Randy Dunlap
2007-12-06  4:25         ` Harvey Harrison
2007-12-06  4:54           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-06  5:04             ` Harvey Harrison
2007-12-06  9:52               ` Andreas Schwab
2007-12-06 12:23                 ` Harvey Harrison
2007-12-06 11:57       ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-06 12:04         ` Ismail Dönmez
2007-12-05 22:51 J.C. Pizarro
2007-12-08  3:51 J.C. Pizarro
2007-12-08 15:06 ` Johannes Schindelin
2007-12-08 20:28   ` Joe Buck
2007-12-08 20:49     ` Marco Costalba
2007-12-09  7:02       ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-15  4:12   ` Nix

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