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From: Richard Guenther <rguenther@suse.de>
To: Eric Botcazou <ebotcazou@adacore.com>
Cc: gcc@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: On VIEW_CONVERT_EXPRs and TBAA
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 22:24:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.00.0909262237270.4520@zhemvz.fhfr.qr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200909262226.36100.ebotcazou@adacore.com>

On Sat, 26 Sep 2009, Eric Botcazou wrote:

> > With VIEW_CONVERT_EXPR you can also easily create the situation
> > where for a reference tree, let it be VIEW_CONVERT_EXPR <T2> (X.a).b
> > like commonly seen in Ada, the alias-set of the outermost component
> > is not a subset of that of the innermost one (the relationship that
> > is usually assured to be true by the record_component_aliases
> > machinery).  You are probably safe here if only your frontend generates
> > such conversions and it is very consistent on how it balances
> > V_C_Es with accesses through pointers (because in the above case
> > if .b is an addressable component an access via a pointer to type
> > of b wouldn't necessarily alias the cited reference tree).
> 
> I presume you're talking exclusively about the addressable case here, because
> in Ada the alias set of (the type of) the outermost component is not a subset 
> of (that of) the innermost one by default (at least for scalar types, it is 
> for aggregate types because of implementation limitations), there being a VCE 
> or not; the field must explicitly be declared addressable.

Yes, addressable in the way that get_alias_set would not skip the
component as component_uses_parent_alias_set.

> > So, what I'd like to know is in which circumstances the Ada
> > frontend uses VIEW_CONVERT_EXPRs and what counter-measures it
> > applies to ensure consistent TBAA.
> 
> The Ada compiler generates a lot of VIEW_CONVERT_EXPRs for conversions between 
> aggregate (sub)types because it generates a lot of aggregate subtypes from a 
> given aggregate type.  These conversions are purely formal and their purpose 
> is to ensure type consistency.  The Ada compiler also uses VIEW_CONVERT_EXPR
> to implement up-casting
> 
>   type Base is tagged record
>     I : Integer;
>   end record;
> 
>   type Derived is new Base with record
>     J : Integer;
>   end record;
> 
>   D : Derived;
>   Base (D).I 
> 
> is translated into VIEW_CONVERT_EXPR<base>(d).i (a questionable use of VCE, no 
> doubt about that).

C++ for this case has a FIELD_DECL in Derived of type Base, so the
middle-end sees d.<anonymous>.i here (and thus also automatically
gets the TBAA hierarchy correct by means of recording component aliases).

The Ada way doesn't look too obscure to me.

> There are a few other, more obscur uses, but we get rid 
> of the most controversial one (optimization barrier on scalars for VRP).
> 
> The main countermeasure to ensure consistent TBAA is decl.c:relate_alias_sets 
> which is aimed at doing the right thing when types are VCEd to each other.

Ok, thanks.

Richard.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-26 20:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-24 10:53 Richard Guenther
2009-09-26 20:41 ` Eric Botcazou
2009-09-26 22:24   ` Richard Guenther [this message]
2009-09-27  9:40     ` Eric Botcazou

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