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From: Michael Matz <matz@suse.de>
To: Lawrence Crowl <crowl@googlers.com>
Cc: "gcc@gcc.gnu.org" <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Simplifying Gimple Generation
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 12:44:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.00.1211161339060.21868@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGqM8fbeEONGiT2b6sRv0vWxuomKCQ31NZs_UcibKv2XXDKeOg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

On Thu, 15 Nov 2012, Lawrence Crowl wrote:

> They allow us to use the same name for the same actions in two
> different contexts.  In particular, distinguishing between statement
> construction in SSA and non-SSA.

I don't see the difference, and I don't see where you need context data to 
distinguis that, in case you really need to.

> > That is, I'm not yet convinced that you really need any local
> > data for which you'd have to add helper classes.
> 
> We also need to ask if we will ever need local data.  If we plan
> for it now, future changes might be possible without affecting
> existing code.  Otherwise, we might require more substantial patches.

But so it _now_ requires substantial patches without it being clear that 
we ever need the complications.  Please don't optimize prematurely.

> > statements without introduction of any helper class.  Basically, 
> > whenever a helper class merely contains one member of a different 
> > type, then I think that other type should be improved so that the 
> > wrapper class isn't necessary anymore.  Fewer types -> good :)
> 
> While I would agree that unnecessary types are bad, I have found that 
> having types to represent distinct concepts is a good way to structure 
> my thinking and catch my errors.

But where exactly are your concepts different?  We have gimple_seq, we can 
append to it.  You had ssa_seq, you could append to it (nicer).  We can 
construct new statements already (boilerplaty), you can construct new 
statements (nicer).  It just the same with a leaner interface.


Ciao,
Michael.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-11-16 12:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-15  1:13 Lawrence Crowl
2012-11-15  6:06 ` Basile Starynkevitch
2012-11-15 19:34   ` Lawrence Crowl
2012-11-16 13:15   ` Diego Novillo
2012-11-15  7:32 ` Xinliang David Li
2012-11-16 13:13   ` Diego Novillo
2012-11-17  1:05     ` Xinliang David Li
2012-11-15 14:48 ` Michael Matz
2012-11-15 16:52   ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2012-11-15 17:01     ` Michael Matz
2012-11-15 17:07       ` Xinliang David Li
2012-11-15 19:59   ` Lawrence Crowl
2012-11-16 12:44     ` Michael Matz [this message]
2012-11-16 13:59   ` Diego Novillo
2012-11-16 14:30     ` Michael Matz
2012-11-16 17:31       ` Andrew Pinski
2012-11-20 16:49 ` Andrew MacLeod
2012-11-25  1:35 ` Diego Novillo

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