From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 84788 invoked by alias); 15 Dec 2017 09:21:53 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: Sender: gcc-owner@gcc.gnu.org Received: (qmail 84626 invoked by uid 89); 15 Dec 2017 09:21:53 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 spammy=HTo:U*markus X-HELO: box.linki.tools Received: from box.linki.tools (HELO box.linki.tools) (88.198.125.222) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with ESMTP; Fri, 15 Dec 2017 09:21:51 +0000 Received: from authenticated-user (box.linki.tools [88.198.125.222]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by box.linki.tools (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A9FC640AC4; Fri, 15 Dec 2017 10:21:39 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: GCC Buildbot Update To: Markus Trippelsdorf , Christophe Lyon Cc: "gcc@gcc.gnu.org" References: <20171215074218.GA17463@x4> From: Paulo Matos Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2017 09:21:00 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20171215074218.GA17463@x4> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IsSubscribed: yes X-SW-Source: 2017-12/txt/msg00090.txt.bz2 On 15/12/17 08:42, Markus Trippelsdorf wrote: > > I don't think this is good news at all. > As I pointed out in a reply to Chris, I haven't seeked permission but I am pretty sure something similar runs in the CF machines from other projects. The downside is that if we can't use the CF, I have no extra machines to run the buildbot on. > Once a buildbot runs on a CF machine it immediately becomes impossible > to do any meaningful measurement on that machine. That is mainly because > of the random I/O (untar, rm -fr, etc.) of the bot. As a result variance > goes to the roof and all measurements drown in noise. > > So it would be good if there was a strict separation of machines used > for bots and machines used by humans. In other words bots should only > run on dedicated machines. > I understand your concern though. Do you know who this issue could be raised with? FSF? -- Paulo Matos