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From: Gabriel Dos Reis <gdr@codesourcery.com>
To: dewar@gnat.com
Cc: aoliva@redhat.com, gdr@codesourcery.com, amylaar@redhat.com,
	gcc@gcc.gnu.org, moshier@moshier.ne.mediaone.net,
	torvalds@transmeta.com, tprince@computer.org
Subject: Re: What is acceptable for -ffast-math? (Was: associative law in combine)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 21:11:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fly9p57n6k.fsf@jambon.cmla.ens-cachan.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20010731035353.271D3F2B65@nile.gnat.com>

dewar@gnat.com writes:

| <<The C/C++ Standard, for example, say that a/b/c is evaluated as
| (a/b)/c. Someone proposed that it should be evaluated as a/(b*c)
| -- which of course is incorrect -- when optimizing.
| >>
| 
| Well now, let's be a little careful here ....
| 
| When the C standard says a/b/c is evaluated as (a/b)/c, it means that the
| result is *as if* it were computed that way, and a compiler is of course
| free to compute a/(b*c) if the result is still correct.

Completely agreed.

[...]

| So the "which of course is incorrect" is a bit too glib here.

What I intended to mean is that the compiler has, first, to prove that
such transformmation yields the same result.  The only argument I've
seen so far is that, GCC should make the program run fast...

-- Gaby

  reply	other threads:[~2001-07-30 21:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-07-30 20:54 dewar
2001-07-30 21:11 ` Gabriel Dos Reis [this message]
2001-07-31 18:12   ` What is acceptable for -ffast-math? (Was: associative law incombine) Linus Torvalds
2001-07-31 20:55     ` What is acceptable for -ffast-math? (Was: associative law in combine) Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-07-30 21:39 ` Joern Rennecke
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-08-03 14:48 dewar
2001-08-02  3:37 Vincent Penquerc'h
2001-08-01 19:04 Carlo Wood
2001-08-01 12:06 Phil Edwards
2001-08-01 10:39 dewar
2001-08-01 10:38 dewar
2001-08-01 10:13 dewar
2001-08-01 10:05 dewar
2001-08-01 10:04 dewar
2001-08-01 10:28 ` Gabriel Dos_Reis
2001-08-01  9:59 dewar
2001-08-01  9:58 What is acceptable for -ffast-math? (Was: associative law incombine) Gabriel Dos_Reis
2001-08-01 10:08 ` Wolfgang Bangerth
2001-08-01 11:12   ` Gabriel Dos_Reis
2001-08-01 11:27     ` What is acceptable for -ffast-math? (Was: associative law in combine) Theodore Papadopoulo
2001-08-01 11:47       ` Gabriel Dos_Reis
2001-08-03  7:32         ` Nick Ing-Simmons
2001-08-03  6:01     ` Per Abrahamsen
2001-08-01  6:52 dewar
2001-08-01  6:04 dewar
2001-08-01  6:48 ` Vincent Penquerc'h
2001-08-03  0:46 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-08-01  3:02 Vincent Penquerc'h
2001-07-31 19:10 dewar
2001-07-31 18:23 dewar
2001-07-31 18:20 dewar
2001-07-31 18:50 ` Joern Rennecke
2001-07-31 21:27   ` Tim Prince
2001-07-31 18:15 dewar
2001-07-31 17:37 dewar
2001-07-31 16:38 dewar
2001-07-31  9:22 mike stump
2001-07-31  8:37 dewar
2001-07-31  8:36 dewar
2001-07-31  8:36 mike stump
2001-07-31  8:35 dewar
2001-07-31  8:19 mike stump
2001-07-31  7:59 mike stump
2001-07-31  7:26 dewar
2001-07-31 15:57 ` Toon Moene
2001-07-31 21:55   ` Tim Prince
2001-08-03  6:12 ` Per Abrahamsen
2001-07-30 21:13 dewar
2001-07-30 21:34 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-07-30 21:43   ` Joern Rennecke
2001-07-30 21:53     ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-08-03  7:12       ` Nick Ing-Simmons
2001-08-01  8:55   ` Theodore Papadopoulo
2001-08-01  9:15     ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-08-01 11:21       ` Theodore Papadopoulo
2001-08-01 11:44         ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-08-01  9:24     ` Tim Hollebeek
2001-08-01  9:54       ` What is acceptable for -ffast-math? (Was: associative law incombine) Linus Torvalds
2001-08-01 10:26         ` Gabriel Dos_Reis
2001-08-01 11:13           ` What is acceptable for -ffast-math? (Was: associative law in combine) Alexandre Oliva
2001-08-01 11:36             ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-08-01 12:07               ` Alexandre Oliva
2001-08-01 13:21                 ` Gabriel Dos_Reis
2001-08-01 14:20                   ` Toon Moene
2001-07-30 19:46 dewar
2001-07-30 20:00 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-07-30 20:20   ` Alexandre Oliva
2001-07-30 20:25     ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-07-30 18:39 dewar
2001-07-30 18:38 dewar
2001-07-30 18:08 dewar
2001-07-30 18:02 dewar
2001-07-30 18:00 dewar
2001-07-30 18:25 ` Joe Buck
2001-07-30 16:11 dewar
2001-07-30 16:29 ` Alexandre Oliva
2001-07-31  8:13   ` Kevin Handy
2001-07-30 15:29 dewar
2001-07-30 15:39 ` Toon Moene
2001-07-30 13:10 dewar
2001-07-30 12:26 dewar
2001-07-30 11:52 dewar
2001-07-30 11:37 What is acceptable for -ffast-math? (Was: associative law incombine) Linus Torvalds
2001-07-30 11:53 ` What is acceptable for -ffast-math? (Was: associative law in combine) Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-07-30 18:40   ` Olivier Galibert
2001-07-30 19:06     ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-07-31  1:35   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-07-31  2:04     ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-07-31  2:35       ` Olivier Galibert
2001-07-31  2:58         ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-07-31 18:10       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-07-30  8:59 mike stump
2001-07-30  6:14 dewar
2001-07-30  8:30 ` Kevin Handy
2001-07-30  6:01 dewar
2001-07-30  6:53 ` Tim Hollebeek
2001-07-30  6:00 dewar
2001-07-30 13:08 ` Toon Moene
2001-07-30  5:57 dewar
2001-07-29 21:33 What is acceptable for -ffast-math? (Was: associative law incombine) Linus Torvalds
2001-07-30 14:43 ` What is acceptable for -ffast-math? (Was: associative law in combine) Alexandre Oliva
2001-07-30 15:45   ` Neil Booth
2001-07-30 16:03     ` Alexandre Oliva
2001-07-30 16:11       ` Neil Booth
2001-07-30 16:28         ` Alexandre Oliva
2001-07-30 19:08   ` Joern Rennecke
2001-07-30 19:22     ` Alexandre Oliva
2001-07-30 19:29       ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-07-30 19:34         ` Alexandre Oliva
2001-07-30 19:54           ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-07-30 19:27     ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-07-29 14:22 dewar
2001-07-29 12:52 * Re: What is acceptable for -ffast-math? (Was: associative lawin combine) Linus Torvalds
2001-07-29 14:03 ` What is acceptable for -ffast-math? (Was: associative law incombine) Stephen L Moshier
2001-07-29 21:17   ` What is acceptable for -ffast-math? (Was: associative law in combine) Fergus Henderson
2001-07-30  0:23     ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2001-07-17 15:59 associative law in combine Joern Rennecke
2001-07-18  1:01 ` Toon Moene
2001-07-18  1:47   ` What is acceptable for -ffast-math? (Was: associative law in combine) Jan Hubicka
2001-07-28 23:04     ` Tim Prince
2001-07-29  6:33       ` Jan Hubicka
2001-07-29 10:18         ` Tim Prince
2001-07-29 10:26           ` Jan Hubicka
2001-07-29 12:11             ` Tim Prince
2001-07-29 12:17               ` Jan Hubicka
2001-07-29 10:50       ` Linus Torvalds

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