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From: Geoff Keating <geoffk@geoffk.org>
To: Mark Mitchell <mark@codesourcery.com>
Cc: gcc@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: Removal of V2 code
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 17:10:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jmbsvbzbw6.fsf@geoffk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20001119130348G.mitchell@codesourcery.com>

Mark Mitchell <mark@codesourcery.com> writes:

> I plan on doing a `cvs remove' on the V2 sources, and removing the
> configury bits for V2 at the end of next week as things seem to be
> settling OK with V3.  (There are still some AIX issues with V3, but
> they seem to be well on the path to resolution.)
> 
> If you have objections to this plan (i.e., you need the V2 sources to
> continue your work), you should:
> 
>   - Try hard to get V3 working on your platform.
> 
>   - Complain to me.  Explain why you can't switch to V3, and what 
>     you need in order to make that happen.
> 
> We can keep V2 in the tree for a bit longer, if we need to, but you'll
> have to come up with a good reason... :-)

The embedded platforms (*-elf, powerpc-eabi*, *-coff) don't work yet with V3; I
don't believe anyone, certainly not at Red Hat, will be able to fix
this until next month; we don't have time.

I don't know what the vxworks status is, but I'd bet it doesn't work either.

I don't know what the Cygwin status is.  It may work.

Do HPUX, IRIX, BeOS work?

Does SunOS (not Solaris) work?  I think we still have SunOS customers.

At Red Hat we have not switched over to V3, primarily for this reason.

Such a change will make it difficult for us to merge patches back into
the FSF sources, because we would not be able to test them.  We would
end up committing patches saying "have tested with C++ only on our
internal sources, due to no libstdc++ support in the public tree".

Already you can see this effect; you will notice that the automated
tester is no longer testing C++ because the platform it tests with
is not supported by libstdc++-v3.

I believe this schedule is far too quick.  We have only had
libstdc++-v3 as the default for a few weeks, there are
known problems, these problems will take some time to fix.
I would wait 6 months and ask again.

-- 
- Geoffrey Keating <geoffk@geoffk.org>

  reply	other threads:[~2000-11-19 17:10 UTC|newest]

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1999-02-12  3:00                     ` C++ default copy ctor not optimal Sylvain Pion
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1999-02-12  4:46                         ` Sylvain Pion
1999-02-28 22:53                           ` Sylvain Pion
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1999-02-12 13:41                         ` Jason Merrill
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1999-02-12 15:27                             ` Jason Merrill
1999-02-28 22:53                               ` Jason Merrill
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1999-02-12 14:26                             ` Paul Derbyshire
1999-02-28 22:53                               ` Paul Derbyshire
1999-02-14 10:57                             ` Sylvain Pion
1999-02-14 21:01                               ` Jason Merrill
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1999-02-15 17:15                                   ` Richard Henderson
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1999-02-15 20:14                                       ` Jeffrey A Law
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1999-02-15 21:39                                           ` Richard Henderson
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1999-02-16  0:10                                               ` Sylvain Pion
1999-02-28 22:53                                                 ` Sylvain Pion
1999-02-28 22:53                                             ` Richard Henderson
1999-02-28 22:53                                         ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-02-16 10:08                                       ` Joe Buck
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1999-02-16 10:18                                           ` Richard Henderson
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1999-02-16 10:33                                               ` Sylvain Pion
1999-02-28 22:53                                                 ` Sylvain Pion
1999-02-28 22:53                                             ` Richard Henderson
1999-02-28 22:53                                         ` Joe Buck
1999-02-28 22:53                                     ` Richard Henderson
1999-02-28 22:53                                 ` Jason Merrill
1999-02-28 22:53                               ` Sylvain Pion
1999-02-28 22:53                           ` Jason Merrill
1999-02-28 22:53                       ` Sylvain Pion
     [not found]                     ` <3.0.6.32.19990212180551.00841100.cygnus.egcs@pop.netaddress.com>
1999-02-12 15:29                       ` Code gen question Jason Merrill
     [not found]                         ` < u990e3kxq8.fsf@yorick.cygnus.com >
1999-02-12 17:34                           ` Paul Derbyshire
     [not found]                             ` < 3.0.6.32.19990212203311.0083e6d0@pop.netaddress.com >
1999-02-12 17:39                               ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-02-28 22:53                                 ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-02-28 22:53                             ` Paul Derbyshire
1999-02-28 22:53                         ` Jason Merrill
1999-02-24 16:27                     ` Question about compiler-supplied assignment and copy with egcs Mike Stump
     [not found]                       ` < 199902250026.QAA04615@kankakee.wrs.com >
1999-02-25 22:31                         ` Paul Derbyshire
1999-02-28 22:53                           ` Paul Derbyshire
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1999-02-25 22:45                         ` Jason Merrill
     [not found]                           ` < u91zjdirxx.fsf@yorick.cygnus.com >
1999-02-27 21:01                             ` Paul Derbyshire
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1999-02-27 21:58                                 ` Question about compiler-supplied assignment and copy with Joe Buck
     [not found]                                   ` < 199902280557.VAA14849@atrus.synopsys.com >
1999-02-27 23:29                                     ` Paul Derbyshire
1999-02-28 22:53                                       ` Paul Derbyshire
1999-02-28 22:53                                   ` Joe Buck
1999-02-28 22:53                               ` Question about compiler-supplied assignment and copy with egcs Paul Derbyshire
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1999-02-27 23:55                             ` Jason Merrill
     [not found]                               ` < u9yalj7yin.fsf@yorick.cygnus.com >
1999-02-28  1:10                                 ` Paul Derbyshire
1999-02-28  2:51                                   ` Tudor Hulubei
     [not found]                                     ` < 14041.8114.947193.298212@hal.ttlc.net >
1999-02-28  4:36                                       ` Paul Derbyshire
1999-02-28 22:53                                         ` Paul Derbyshire
1999-02-28 22:53                                     ` Tudor Hulubei
1999-02-28 22:53                                   ` Paul Derbyshire
1999-03-01  2:28                                   ` Gerald Pfeifer
1999-03-31 23:46                                     ` Gerald Pfeifer
1999-02-28 22:53                               ` Jason Merrill
1999-02-28 22:53                           ` Jason Merrill
1999-02-28 22:53                       ` Mike Stump
2000-11-19 13:03                     ` Removal of V2 code Mark Mitchell
2000-11-19 17:10                       ` Geoff Keating [this message]
     [not found]                         ` <Mark>
2000-11-19 17:24                         ` Christopher Faylor
2000-11-19 17:56                         ` Mark Mitchell
2000-11-19 20:24                           ` Geoff Keating
2000-11-19 21:52                             ` Mark Mitchell
2000-11-19 22:12                               ` Geoff Keating
2000-11-19 22:33                                 ` Mark Mitchell
2000-11-20  1:07                                 ` Mark Mitchell
2000-11-20  2:11                                   ` Geoff Keating
2000-11-21 10:56                                 ` Mark Mitchell
2000-11-21 12:20                                   ` Benjamin Kosnik
2000-11-21 12:45                                     ` Mark Mitchell
2000-11-21 12:37                                   ` Geoff Keating
2000-11-21 12:47                                     ` Mark Mitchell
2000-11-20  2:54                         ` Franz Sirl
2000-11-21  6:38                           ` Franz Sirl
2000-11-21  7:26                             ` Daniel Berlin
2000-11-20  0:41                       ` Andrew Cagney
2000-11-20  0:55                         ` Mark Mitchell
2000-11-20  3:32                           ` Marc Espie
2000-11-20  5:53                             ` Joseph S. Myers
2000-11-20  8:34                             ` Mark Mitchell
     [not found]                           ` <00112021562300.00259@hallo>
2000-11-20 14:58                             ` Mark Mitchell
2000-11-21 14:14                               ` Geoff Keating
2000-11-21 15:06                                 ` Mark Mitchell
2000-11-21 16:08                                   ` Tom Tromey
2000-11-21 17:21                                     ` 2.95.3 (was Re: Removal of V2 code) Joe Buck
2000-11-22 13:55                                       ` Tom Tromey
2000-11-21 21:41                                     ` Removal of V2 code Mark Mitchell
2000-11-21 20:00                                   ` SC confidentiality Geoff Keating
2000-11-21 21:57                                     ` Mark Mitchell
     [not found]                 ` <12:29:11>
     [not found]                   ` <-0500>
1999-02-01  8:23                     ` A Lisp compiler? Matthew X. Economou
1999-02-01  9:29                       ` Ken Raeburn
1999-02-02 15:44                         ` Matthew X. Economou
     [not found]                           ` < w4ou2x4jrke.fsf@nemesis.irtnog.org >
1999-02-02 16:14                             ` [Meta] " Paul Derbyshire
1999-02-28 22:53                               ` Paul Derbyshire
1999-02-28 22:53                           ` Matthew X. Economou
1999-02-19 23:14                         ` Matthias Hölzl
1999-02-28 22:53                           ` Matthias Hölzl
1999-02-28 22:53                         ` Ken Raeburn
1999-02-28 22:53                       ` Matthew X. Economou
1999-02-27 21:39                     ` Confirmed template parsing bug: bug in error message generation Paul Derbyshire
1999-02-28 22:53                       ` Paul Derbyshire
1999-03-01  0:02                       ` Alexandre Oliva
     [not found]                         ` < oriuclljxv.fsf@araguaia.dcc.unicamp.br >
1999-03-02  8:43                           ` Paul Derbyshire
     [not found]                             ` < 3.0.6.32.19990302114234.0086bd80@pop.globalserve.net >
1999-03-02  9:26                               ` Robert Lipe
1999-03-31 23:46                                 ` Robert Lipe
1999-03-02 22:22                             ` Alexandre Oliva
1999-03-31 23:46                               ` Alexandre Oliva
1999-03-31 23:46                             ` Paul Derbyshire
1999-03-31 23:46                         ` Alexandre Oliva
1999-02-28 19:05                     ` Possible egcs-1.1.2-pre2 configure problem on HP-UX 9.04 rodneybrown
1999-02-28 22:53                       ` rodneybrown
1999-03-01  9:05                       ` Alexandre Oliva
     [not found]                         ` < orogmdf8jw.fsf@araguaia.dcc.unicamp.br >
1999-03-01  9:14                           ` Franz Sirl
1999-03-01  9:32                             ` Alexandre Oliva
1999-03-31 23:46                               ` Alexandre Oliva
1999-03-31 23:46                             ` Franz Sirl
1999-03-31 23:46                         ` Alexandre Oliva
1999-03-01  9:18                       ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-03-31 23:46                         ` Jeffrey A Law
     [not found]                     ` <(EST)>
1999-06-25 17:54                       ` Occasional use of GNU ld problems Brad Lucier
1999-06-29  2:06                         ` Alexandre Oliva
1999-06-29  2:20                           ` Franz Sirl
1999-06-30 15:43                             ` Franz Sirl
1999-06-30 15:43                           ` Alexandre Oliva
1999-06-30 15:43                         ` Brad Lucier
     [not found]                 ` <08:25:39>
     [not found]                   ` <-0700>
2001-05-09  9:58                     ` Automake and friends and fastjar Mark Klein
2001-05-09 12:08                       ` Tom Tromey
2001-05-09 12:15                         ` Mark Klein
     [not found]         ` <"Fri,>
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     [not found]               ` <2000>
     [not found]                 ` <10:30:29>
     [not found]                   ` <-0400>
2000-06-29  7:30                     ` SSA implementation David Dolan
2000-06-29 11:59                       ` Geoff Keating
2000-06-29 12:07                         ` Errors from Gcc Matt Minnis
2000-06-29 13:43                           ` Martin v. Loewis
2000-06-29 12:11                         ` SSA implementation Mark Mitchell
2000-06-29 12:24                           ` Gerald Pfeifer
2000-07-05 11:52                     ` PowerPC code generation David J Schinsing
2000-07-05 12:15                       ` David Young
2000-07-05 12:57                         ` gcc and struct passing in function arguments? David Young
2000-07-05 13:09                           ` Michael Meissner
2000-07-05 14:00                             ` Joern Rennecke
2000-07-05 13:50                           ` Alan Lehotsky
2000-07-05 13:26                       ` PowerPC code generation Geoff Keating
2000-07-05 13:53                         ` Franz Sirl
2000-07-05 14:20                           ` Michael Meissner
2000-07-05 14:36                           ` Geoff Keating
2000-07-05 19:54                             ` David Edelsohn
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2001-06-07 18:27                   ` Another RFC: regex in libiberty DJ Delorie
2001-06-07 18:31                     ` Ian Lance Taylor
2001-06-07 18:33                       ` DJ Delorie
2001-06-07 18:43                         ` Ian Lance Taylor
2001-06-08  0:11                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2001-06-08  9:18                       ` Mark Mitchell
2001-06-08  9:59                       ` Zack Weinberg
2001-06-08 10:05                         ` H . J . Lu
2001-06-08 10:31                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2001-06-08 10:39                             ` H . J . Lu
2001-06-08 10:37                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2001-06-11 22:50                       ` Jim Blandy
2001-06-11 23:51                         ` Randall R Schulz
2001-06-12  6:48                         ` Jim Blandy
2001-06-09 13:34                     ` Andrew Cagney
2000-11-20 13:54 Removal of V2 code Richard Kenner
2000-11-20 14:59 ` Mark Mitchell
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2000-11-20  8:55 Kaveh R. Ghazi
2000-11-20  9:47 ` law
2000-11-20  8:49 Richard Kenner
2000-11-20 11:11 ` Mark Mitchell
2000-11-19 17:40 Billinghurst, David (CRTS)
     [not found] <19990608202201.F17154@admin3.jump.net>
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1999-06-10 16:01           ` libs/csengine/basic/polyset.cpp:46: Internal compiler error 191 Philipp Thomas
1999-06-30 15:43             ` Philipp Thomas
     [not found]           ` <376b1082.25172596@mailer.gwdg.de>
1999-06-10 17:18             ` Alexandre Oliva
1999-06-10 17:50               ` Franz Sirl
1999-06-12 16:02                 ` Alexandre Oliva
1999-06-15  4:11                   ` Franz Sirl
1999-06-15  4:54                     ` Alexandre Oliva
1999-06-30 15:43                       ` Alexandre Oliva
1999-06-30 15:43                     ` Franz Sirl
1999-06-30 15:43                   ` Alexandre Oliva
1999-06-30 15:43                 ` Franz Sirl
1999-06-30 15:43               ` Alexandre Oliva
1999-05-20 21:06 assemble_external on .class files Mark Klein
1999-05-22 14:23 ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-05-22 15:28   ` Mark Klein
1999-05-31 21:36     ` Mark Klein
1999-05-25 18:33   ` Mark Klein
1999-05-25 19:41     ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-05-25 21:00       ` Per Bothner
1999-05-25 21:50         ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-05-25 22:19           ` Mark Klein
1999-05-25 22:24             ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-05-31 21:36               ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-05-25 22:49             ` Per Bothner
1999-05-31 14:53               ` Mark Klein
1999-05-31 21:36                 ` Mark Klein
1999-05-31 21:36               ` Per Bothner
1999-05-31 21:36             ` Mark Klein
1999-05-31 21:36           ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-05-31 21:36         ` Per Bothner
1999-05-31 21:36       ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-05-31 21:36     ` Mark Klein
1999-05-31 21:36   ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-05-31 21:36 ` Mark Klein
1999-02-24 15:13 Bug in libm or libstdc++ Paul Derbyshire
     [not found] ` < 3.0.6.32.19990222090333.00847df0@pop.globalserve.net >
1999-02-24 15:34   ` Joe Buck
     [not found]     ` < 199902242332.PAA09334@atrus.synopsys.com >
1999-02-25 22:25       ` Paul Derbyshire
     [not found]         ` < 3.0.6.32.19990226012513.008e5450@pop.globalserve.net >
1999-02-26 10:38           ` Joe Buck
     [not found]             ` < 199902261836.KAA17757@atrus.synopsys.com >
1999-02-26 22:21               ` Paul Derbyshire
     [not found]                 ` < 3.0.6.32.19990227012120.0084e180@pop.globalserve.net >
1999-02-27  9:40                   ` Marc Espie
     [not found]                     ` < 199902271740.SAA14323@quatramaran.ens.fr >
1999-02-27 20:45                       ` Paul Derbyshire
1999-02-28 22:53                         ` Paul Derbyshire
1999-03-01  0:19                         ` Alexandre Oliva
     [not found]                           ` < ord82tlj4l.fsf@araguaia.dcc.unicamp.br >
1999-03-02  7:58                             ` Paul Derbyshire
1999-03-02 23:08                               ` Alexandre Oliva
1999-03-31 23:46                                 ` Alexandre Oliva
1999-03-31 23:46                               ` Paul Derbyshire
1999-03-31 23:46                           ` Alexandre Oliva
1999-02-28 22:53                     ` Marc Espie
1999-02-28 22:53                 ` Paul Derbyshire
1999-02-28 22:53             ` Joe Buck
1999-02-28 22:53         ` Paul Derbyshire
1999-02-28 22:53     ` Joe Buck
1999-02-24 15:42   ` Bob McWhirter
     [not found]     ` < Pine.LNX.3.96.990224183714.7438r-100000@exeter.exeter.org >
1999-02-25 22:20       ` Paul Derbyshire
     [not found]         ` <199902261635.LAA23787@wagner.Princeton.EDU>
1999-02-27 19:08           ` Paul Derbyshire
1999-02-28 22:53             ` Paul Derbyshire
1999-03-01  8:30             ` Joern Rennecke
     [not found]               ` < 199903011630.QAA00110@phal.cygnus.co.uk >
1999-03-02  8:04                 ` Paul Derbyshire
     [not found]                   ` < 3.0.6.32.19990302110405.00945870@pop.globalserve.net >
1999-03-02  8:38                     ` Joern Rennecke
1999-03-31 23:46                       ` Joern Rennecke
1999-03-31 23:46                   ` Paul Derbyshire
1999-03-31 23:46               ` Joern Rennecke
     [not found]         ` <Pine.SUN.3.91.990228142826.5950V-100000@is>
1999-02-28  4:57           ` Paul Derbyshire
1999-02-28 22:53             ` Paul Derbyshire
1999-02-28 22:53         ` Paul Derbyshire
1999-02-28 22:53     ` Bob McWhirter
1999-02-28 22:53 ` Paul Derbyshire
1999-01-31 22:09 [Meta] Enough of the "egcs.cygnus.com" already! Paul Derbyshire
1999-01-31 22:14 ` CaT
1999-01-31 22:24   ` Bob McWhirter
1999-01-31 22:50     ` Paul Derbyshire
1999-02-01  2:01       ` Franz Sirl
     [not found]         ` < 4.1.19990201105045.054320e0@mail.lauterbach.com >
1999-02-01 15:53           ` Paul Derbyshire
1999-02-28 22:53             ` Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
1999-02-28 22:53             ` Paul Derbyshire
1999-02-28 22:53         ` Franz Sirl
1999-01-31 23:12 ` Ken Raeburn
1999-02-01  7:13 ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-02-01  7:27   ` Alexandre Oliva
     [not found]     ` < or4sp6b12f.fsf@araguaia.dcc.unicamp.br >
1999-02-01  7:30       ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-02-01  7:35         ` Alexandre Oliva
     [not found]           ` < or1zkab0ou.fsf@araguaia.dcc.unicamp.br >
1999-02-01  7:50             ` Jeffrey A Law
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1999-02-01  8:23                 ` Joe Buck
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1999-02-01  8:24                     ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-02-28 22:53                       ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-02-01 16:03                     ` Paul Derbyshire
1999-02-28 22:53                       ` Paul Derbyshire
1999-02-28 22:53                   ` Joe Buck
1999-02-28 22:53                   ` postmaster
1999-02-28 22:53               ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-02-01 15:58             ` Paul Derbyshire
1999-02-28 22:53               ` Paul Derbyshire
1999-02-28 22:53           ` Alexandre Oliva
1999-02-01  7:59         ` Ken Raeburn
1999-02-28 22:53           ` Ken Raeburn
1999-02-28 22:53         ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-02-13 10:47       ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-02-28 22:53         ` Jeffrey A Law
1999-02-28 22:53     ` Alexandre Oliva
1999-02-28 22:53   ` Jeffrey A Law
     [not found] ` <19990201200631.A227@tardis.ed.ac.uk>
1999-02-01 15:31   ` Paul Derbyshire
1999-02-28 22:53     ` Paul Derbyshire
1999-02-03 12:05 ` Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
1999-02-28 22:53   ` Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
     [not found] <Franz>
     [not found] <Brad>
     [not found] <Paul>
     [not found] <Eli>
     [not found] <Ken>
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