From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26075 invoked by alias); 13 Jan 2004 01:19:08 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: Sender: gcc-owner@gcc.gnu.org Received: (qmail 26068 invoked from network); 13 Jan 2004 01:19:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO uniton.integrable-solutions.net) (62.212.99.186) by sources.redhat.com with SMTP; 13 Jan 2004 01:19:07 -0000 Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id i0D1CN9b005289; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 02:12:23 +0100 Received: (from gdr@localhost) by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id i0D1CMet005288; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 02:12:22 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: uniton.integrable-solutions.net: gdr set sender to gdr@integrable-solutions.net using -f To: Ziemowit Laski Cc: Steven Bosscher , Geoff Keating , Mark Mitchell , gcc@gcc.gnu.org, Phil Edwards Subject: Re: gcc 3.5 integration branch proposal References: <90200277-4301-11D8-BDBD-000A95B1F520@apple.com> <200401130118.27506.s.bosscher@student.tudelft.nl> <200401130140.09367.s.bosscher@student.tudelft.nl> <0A2511CD-4563-11D8-B7FE-000393673036@apple.com> From: Gabriel Dos Reis In-Reply-To: <0A2511CD-4563-11D8-B7FE-000393673036@apple.com> Organization: Integrable Solutions Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 01:19:00 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-SW-Source: 2004-01/txt/msg00774.txt.bz2 Ziemowit Laski writes: | The "language lawyer" argument is beside the point. AltiVec is just | one of many real-world, platform-specific C/C++ idiosyncracies out | there. | In my opinion, one of the duties of the RM (currently Mark) is to devise | architectural solutions to accommodate such idiosyncracies in the same | source base. To the extent that he failed to do this, Apple | (and I suspect many others) wound up maintaining their own branches, and | obviously have a lesser and lesser incentive to care about the quality | of the mainline FSF product (which is where this discussion started). I seriously suggest you talk with Matt Austern about this issue, before you turn it into a discussion about individuals -- which I guess, won't really help your cause. -- Gaby