From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6346 invoked by alias); 29 Jun 2005 00:43:49 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: Sender: gcc-owner@gcc.gnu.org Received: (qmail 6328 invoked by uid 22791); 29 Jun 2005 00:43:44 -0000 Received: from smtp-103-wednesday.nerim.net (HELO kraid.nerim.net) (62.4.16.103) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.30-dev) with ESMTP; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 00:43:44 +0000 Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (gdr.net1.nerim.net [62.212.99.186]) by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D4F440E22; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 02:43:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id j5T0h2KY006732; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 02:43:02 +0200 Received: (from gdr@localhost) by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j5T0h2wL006731; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 02:43:02 +0200 To: Robert Dewar Cc: Georg Bauhaus , gcc mailing list Subject: Re: signed is undefined and has been since 1992 (in GCC) References: <27fdc0d8dc588cfdb3a14a153c5d037c@physics.uc.edu> <6d9fa260f233e519762c7d11276a35ad@physics.uc.edu> <3dbad9a6bd7eb1aea74ff2245eaa1b99@physics.uc.edu> <42C115D5.8070503@adacore.com> <42C13D4D.9040604@adacore.com> <42C14930.40402@adacore.com> <42C1D610.6030701@futureapps.de> <42C1EAEF.8010400@adacore.com> From: Gabriel Dos Reis In-Reply-To: <42C1EAEF.8010400@adacore.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 00:43:00 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-SW-Source: 2005-06/txt/msg01222.txt.bz2 Robert Dewar writes: | Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: | | > C is | > trustworthy (and preferred over SML for that curcial part of the proof | > checker) because the mapping of the C code to the generated assembly | > code is straighforward and amenable to inspection. | | This kind of traceability is of course vital for such applications, but | it is by no means unique to C, Nobody claims it is unique to C. You're after the wrong target. | and there is a big difference between saying | that C is an assembly language, and that the mapping of C to assembly | language is transparent. Oh, you denied any connection in previous message. -- Gaby