From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 29537 invoked by alias); 20 Jan 2004 00:17:41 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: Sender: gcc-owner@gcc.gnu.org Received: (qmail 29506 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2004 00:17:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO uniton.integrable-solutions.net) (62.212.99.186) by sources.redhat.com with SMTP; 20 Jan 2004 00:17:40 -0000 Received: from uniton.integrable-solutions.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id i0K0B89b011918; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 01:11:08 +0100 Received: (from gdr@localhost) by uniton.integrable-solutions.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id i0K0B7Ld011917; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 01:11:08 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: uniton.integrable-solutions.net: gdr set sender to gdr@integrable-solutions.net using -f To: Mark Hahn Cc: gcc@gcc.gnu.org Subject: Re: gcc 3.5 integration branch proposal References: From: Gabriel Dos Reis In-Reply-To: Organization: Integrable Solutions Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 00:17:00 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-SW-Source: 2004-01/txt/msg01417.txt.bz2 Mark Hahn writes: | > I think we can both agree that all is in the balance between code quality | > improvement and compilation speed degradation. | | the problem is that this discussion is being dominated by the sqeaky wheel | phenomenon. who's likley to complain about compiler speed? people who | somehow can't afford a beefy machine, and yet want to use gigantic UI | frameworks or breathtaking template tricks. Last time Gerald generously offered me a guesst account for debugging a regression I introduced in the compiler, I determined that the machine had at least 1Gb ram. I suppose you don't regard such machine as beefy? Or do you think Gerald's testcase is using gigantic UI framework or breathtaking template tricks? | GCC still works VERY well for traditional Unix-style code, even on small | machines, even with sane use of C++. Just for my education, what is insane use of C++? IS Boots sane or insane use of C++? Thanks, -- Gaby