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From: Gabriel Dos Reis <gdr@integrable-solutions.net>
To: Paul Schlie <schlie@comcast.net>
Cc: GCC Development <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: potential simple loop optimization assistance strategy?
Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 16:24:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3vf3uze97.fsf@uniton.integrable-solutions.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BEEADEA6.AB11%schlie@comcast.net>

Paul Schlie <schlie@comcast.net> writes:

| As in general it seems that as the compiler knows what it needs to know to
| enable ideal loop optimization, why not simply have it assert: if it knew x,
| then it could do y?  For example, if given something like:
| 
|   for (i = x; i < y; i++){ ... }
| 
| Where it may not be known statically if x < y, or what (y - x) % N may be;
| therefore possibly difficult to ideally optimize.  Where then instead of
| assuming something that may not be factual by default, it could generate a
| warning indicating that the loop may be further optimized if it knew that
| x < y, and/or (y - x) % N == 0.  Where then the programmer could then choose
| to warrant it by preconditioning the loop:
| 
|   assert((x < y) && ((y - x) % 4)); // which could throw an exception.
| 
|   for ((i = x; i < y; i++){ ... }
| 
| Where although it would require run-time code, it's overhead should be
| insignificant if the benefit of the optimization were truly significant;

I would not predicate the transformation on that assumption
(negligible cost of assertion).  That could happen in an inner tight
loop. 

What we need is a balance that does not require too much of work from
the compiler -- because otherwise, it won't happen.

-- Gaby

  reply	other threads:[~2005-07-01 16:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-07-01 15:51 Paul Schlie
2005-07-01 16:24 ` Gabriel Dos Reis [this message]
2005-07-01 17:15   ` Paul Schlie
2005-07-01 16:27 ` Devang Patel
2005-07-01 18:16 ` Giovanni Bajo
2005-07-01 18:22   ` Diego Novillo
2005-07-01 18:26     ` Giovanni Bajo
2005-07-01 19:42       ` Paul Schlie
     [not found]       ` <m3k6ka6po1.fsf@localhost.localdomain>
2005-07-02  9:18         ` Giovanni Bajo
2005-07-02 15:39           ` Michael Veksler
2005-07-02 18:58             ` Giovanni Bajo

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