* [wwwdocs] Complete revamp of our web site
@ 2006-06-05 20:58 Gerald Pfeifer
2006-06-05 21:26 ` Martin Michlmayr
` (2 more replies)
0 siblings, 3 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Gerald Pfeifer @ 2006-06-05 20:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: gcc-patches, gcc; +Cc: java-patches, libstdc++
The following patchset renovates our web presence, adopting the current
style from www.gnu.org and bringing the Java and libstdc++ pages in sync
so that we now have one common style.
Feedback welcome! (Steven, I've seen yours already and will respond. ;-)
Compress the navigation bar vertically, such that it no longer dominates
our vertical extent.
Move the gcc-announce subscription form from the navigation bar to the
body and restructure the lower half of the body into two columns, the
left one for announcements, the right one for subscription and search.
Disable the old logo and move the navigation bar from the left side to
the right side.
Adjust the Java and libstdc++ pages similarly by moving the navigation
bar to the right side. Adjust the style in those two areas to our new
global style.
Gerald
Index: index.html
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvs/gcc/wwwdocs/htdocs/index.html,v
retrieving revision 1.562
diff -u -r1.562 index.html
--- index.html 5 Jun 2006 10:46:26 -0000 1.562
+++ index.html 5 Jun 2006 20:26:46 -0000
@@ -6,10 +6,12 @@
<set-var navigation>
<body>
-<img src="gcc.png" alt="" align="right" />
-
<h1>GCC, the GNU Compiler Collection</h1>
+<!--
+<img src="gcc.png" alt="" align="right" />
+-->
+
<p>The GNU Compiler Collection includes front ends for
C, C++, Objective-C, <a href="fortran/">Fortran</a>,
<a href="java/">Java</a>, and Ada, as well as libraries for these
@@ -85,6 +87,9 @@
</dl>
-->
+<table><tr>
+<td style="width: 50%; padding-right: 8px;" valign="top">
+
<h2><small>News/Announcements</small></h2>
<dl>
@@ -124,7 +129,24 @@
| <a href="http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/g77/News.html">Fortran 77 status</a>
| <a href="news.html">Older news and announcements...</a>
+</td><td style="width: 50%; padding-left: 12px; border-left: #3366cc thin solid;" valign="top">
+
+<h2><small>Get our announcements:</small></h2>
+
+ <form method="get" action="http://gcc.gnu.org/cgi-bin/ml-request">
+ <input type="hidden" name="digest" value="off" />
+ <input type="hidden" name="operation" value="subscribe" />
+ <input type="hidden" name="listname" value="gcc-announce" />
+ <input type="text" name="username" value="your e-mail address" size="20" style="font-size:90%;" />
+ <input type="submit" name="submit" value="Subscribe" style="font-size:90%;" />
+ </form>
+
+<h2><small>Search our site</small></h2>
+
<include searchbox.ihtml>
+</td>
+</tr></table>
+
</body>
</html>
Index: style.mhtml
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvs/gcc/wwwdocs/htdocs/style.mhtml,v
retrieving revision 1.89
diff -u -r1.89 style.mhtml
--- style.mhtml 5 Jun 2006 00:17:20 -0000 1.89
+++ style.mhtml 5 Jun 2006 20:34:25 -0000
@@ -12,23 +12,12 @@
<unset-var XHTML>
>
-;;; For the "java/" pages, we have a different color scheme.
+;;; For the "java/" pages, we want the navigation bar.
<if <match <get-var env::PREPROCESS_FILE> "java/[^/]*.html">
<group
<set-var navigation>
<set-var BACKPATH="../">
- <define-function nav-title-style> bgcolor="#B0D0FF" </define-function>
- <define-function nav-body-style> bgcolor="#E0F0FF" </define-function>
- <define-container h2>
- <verbatim>
- <h2 style="background-color:#B0D0FF">
- </verbatim>
- %body
- <verbatim>
- </h2>
- </verbatim>
- </define-container>
>
>
@@ -121,7 +110,17 @@
<table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2">
<tr>
- <td valign="top"> <!-- left frame -->
+ <td bgcolor="white" valign="top" width="99%"> <!-- main frame -->
+ >
+>
+
+%body
+
+<if <var-exists navigation>
+ <group
+ </td> <!-- end of main frame -->
+
+ <td valign="top" style="padding-left: 36px;"> <!-- nav frame -->
<table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" width="10em">
<if <match <get-var env::PREPROCESS_FILE> "java/[^/]*.html">
@@ -148,17 +147,15 @@
<if <match <get-var env::PREPROCESS_FILE> "libstdc../[^/]*.html">
<group
<tr><td><table cellspacing="0" width="100%">
- <tr bgcolor="#CCCCCC"><td>
+ <tr><td <nav-title-style> >
<b>libstdc++ v3</b>
</td></tr>
- <tr bgcolor="#EEEEEE"><td>
- <p>
+ <tr><td <nav-body-style> >
<a href="index.html">libstdc++ Home</a><br />
<a href="../index.html">GCC Home</a><br />
<a href="http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/libstdc++/faq/index.html">FAQ</a>
(<a href="http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/libstdc++/faq/index.txt">text</a>)<br />
<a href="http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/libstdc++/documentation.html">Documentation</a>
- </p>
</td></tr>
</table></td></tr>
>
@@ -169,14 +166,12 @@
<b>About GCC</b>
</td></tr>
<tr><td <nav-body-style> >
- <p>
<a href="<get-var BACKPATH>gccmission.html">Mission Statement</a><br />
<a href="<get-var BACKPATH>releases.html">Releases</a><br />
<a href="<get-var BACKPATH>snapshots.html">Snapshots</a><br />
<a href="<get-var BACKPATH>lists.html">Mailing lists</a><br />
<a href="http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Contributors.html">Contributors</a><br />
<a href="<get-var BACKPATH>steering.html">Steering Committee</a><br />
- </p>
</td></tr>
</table></td></tr>
@@ -185,15 +180,12 @@
<b>Documentation</b>
</td></tr>
<tr><td <nav-body-style> >
- <p>
- <a href="http://gcc.gnu.org/install/">Installation</a><br />
· <a href="http://gcc.gnu.org/install/specific.html">Platforms</a><br />
· <a href="http://gcc.gnu.org/install/test.html">Testing</a><br />
<a href="<get-var BACKPATH>onlinedocs/">Manual</a><br />
<a href="<get-var BACKPATH>faq.html">FAQ</a><br />
<a href="http://gcc.gnu.org/wiki">Wiki</a><br />
<a href="<get-var BACKPATH>readings.html">Further Readings</a>
- </p>
</td></tr>
</table></td></tr>
@@ -202,10 +194,8 @@
<b>Download</b>
</td></tr>
<tr><td <nav-body-style> >
- <p>
<a href="<get-var BACKPATH>mirrors.html">Mirror sites</a><br />
<a href="http://gcc.gnu.org/install/binaries.html">Binaries</a>
- </p>
</td></tr>
</table></td></tr>
@@ -214,11 +204,9 @@
<b>"Live" Sources</b>
</td></tr>
<tr><td <nav-body-style> >
- <p>
<a href="<get-var BACKPATH>svn.html">SVN read access</a><br />
<a href="<get-var BACKPATH>rsync.html">Rsync read access</a><br />
<a href="<get-var BACKPATH>svnwrite.html">SVN write access</a><br />
- </p>
</td></tr>
</table></td></tr>
@@ -227,7 +215,6 @@
<b>Development</b>
</td></tr>
<tr><td <nav-body-style> >
- <p>
<a href="<get-var BACKPATH>develop.html">Development Plan</a><br />
· (<a href="<get-var BACKPATH>develop.html#timeline">tentative timeline</a>)<br />
<a href="<get-var BACKPATH>contribute.html">Contributing</a><br />
@@ -237,7 +224,6 @@
<a href="<get-var BACKPATH>backends.html">Back ends</a><br />
<a href="<get-var BACKPATH>extensions.html">Extensions</a><br />
<a href="<get-var BACKPATH>benchmarks/">Benchmarks</a><br />
- </p>
</td></tr>
</table></td></tr>
@@ -246,37 +232,15 @@
<b>Bugs</b>
</td></tr>
<tr><td <nav-body-style> >
- <p>
<a href="<get-var BACKPATH>bugs.html#known">Known bugs</a><br />
<a href="<get-var BACKPATH>bugs.html">How to report</a><br />
<a href="http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/">Bug database</a><br />
<a href="<get-var BACKPATH>bugs/management.html">...Management</a>
- </p>
- <hr />
- <form method="get" action="http://gcc.gnu.org/cgi-bin/ml-request">
- <p>Get our announcements:<br />
- <input type="hidden" name="digest" value="off" />
- <input type="hidden" name="operation" value="subscribe" />
- <input type="hidden" name="listname" value="gcc-announce" />
- <input type="text" name="username" value="your e-mail address" size="20" style="font-size:90%;" />
- <input type="submit" name="submit" value="Subscribe!" />
- </p>
- </form>
</td></tr>
</table></td></tr>
</table>
- </td> <!-- end of left frame -->
-
- <td bgcolor="white" valign="top" width="99%"> <!-- right frame -->
- >
->
-
-%body
-
-<if <var-exists navigation>
- <group
- </td> <!-- end of right frame -->
+ </td> <!-- end of nav frame -->
</tr>
</table>
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* Re: [wwwdocs] Complete revamp of our web site
2006-06-05 20:58 [wwwdocs] Complete revamp of our web site Gerald Pfeifer
@ 2006-06-05 21:26 ` Martin Michlmayr
2006-06-07 10:43 ` Gerald Pfeifer
2006-06-05 21:28 ` DJ Delorie
2006-06-05 21:38 ` Tom Tromey
2 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Martin Michlmayr @ 2006-06-05 21:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Gerald Pfeifer; +Cc: gcc
* Gerald Pfeifer <gerald@pfeifer.com> [2006-06-05 22:51]:
> <h1>GCC, the GNU Compiler Collection</h1>
How about a dash here rather than a comma? Looks nicer imho:
| <h1>GCC - the GNU Compiler Collection</h1>
--
Martin Michlmayr
tbm@cyrius.com
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* Re: [wwwdocs] Complete revamp of our web site
2006-06-05 20:58 [wwwdocs] Complete revamp of our web site Gerald Pfeifer
2006-06-05 21:26 ` Martin Michlmayr
@ 2006-06-05 21:28 ` DJ Delorie
2006-06-06 5:13 ` Andrew Pinski
` (2 more replies)
2006-06-05 21:38 ` Tom Tromey
2 siblings, 3 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: DJ Delorie @ 2006-06-05 21:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: gerald; +Cc: gcc
> Feedback welcome!
Right-side navigation bars are nonstandard. It should be moved to the
left side. Don't accept the search engine excuse; that's easily
fixable. Also, by fixing the search engine issue you punish Lynx
users; the navigation menu is now near (but not at) the end of the
text.
Sidebars should have some enclosing detail, such as a border or a
shading, so set them off from the rest of the page. Don't rely on
whitespace to do this job.
"Platforms" and "Testing" have bullets; no other item in that list
does.
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* Re: [wwwdocs] Complete revamp of our web site
2006-06-05 20:58 [wwwdocs] Complete revamp of our web site Gerald Pfeifer
2006-06-05 21:26 ` Martin Michlmayr
2006-06-05 21:28 ` DJ Delorie
@ 2006-06-05 21:38 ` Tom Tromey
2 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Tom Tromey @ 2006-06-05 21:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Gerald Pfeifer; +Cc: gcc-patches, gcc, java-patches, libstdc++
>>>>> "Gerald" == Gerald Pfeifer <gerald@pfeifer.com> writes:
Gerald> The following patchset renovates our web presence, adopting
Gerald> the current style from www.gnu.org and bringing the Java and
Gerald> libstdc++ pages in sync so that we now have one common style.
Looking better! I like it much more.
Gerald> Feedback welcome!
Since you asked...
For the gcj pages I think there are still some things that would be
nice to change. Some is content, some is layout, and some is
technology. Overall the pages (and the gcc main page is included
here) are too cluttered.
Content:
The "what is gcj" section is too verbose. It should be a single
paragraph, and then a link to "more info" or something like that.
Layout:
The font is too big. The news section should be visible when you
first visit the page, without scrolling. In particular I think the
news should be along the left, the "what is gcj?" thing in the middle,
and the navigation on the right (or reversed if the navigation is on
the left... I don't really care where that ends up).
Technology:
We should have an RSS feed for the news. Ideally any gcj hacker could
add a news entry without a cvs commit, but I don't insist on that :).
The news column for gcj should come from this feed, and the news
column for the main gcc page should subscribe to it.
Take a look at the mono main page if you want to see something that
looks nice, is clean, and remains useful.
Tom
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* Re: [wwwdocs] Complete revamp of our web site
2006-06-05 21:28 ` DJ Delorie
@ 2006-06-06 5:13 ` Andrew Pinski
2006-06-06 21:38 ` Joe Buck
2006-06-11 20:00 ` Gerald Pfeifer
2006-06-11 16:39 ` Gerald Pfeifer
2006-06-12 0:04 ` Gerald Pfeifer
2 siblings, 2 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Pinski @ 2006-06-06 5:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: DJ Delorie; +Cc: gerald, gcc
On Jun 5, 2006, at 2:26 PM, DJ Delorie wrote:
>
>> Feedback welcome!
>
> Right-side navigation bars are nonstandard. It should be moved to the
> left side. Don't accept the search engine excuse; that's easily
> fixable. Also, by fixing the search engine issue you punish Lynx
> users; the navigation menu is now near (but not at) the end of the
> text.
I was going to say the same thing.
Also what about moving the News up to a noticeable spot since right now
it is down in a corner so it looks out of place. In fact on my screen
which is set to 1024x768, I have to scroll to get to the news.
The release info should be at the same level as the news.
Thanks,
Andrew Pinski
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* Re: [wwwdocs] Complete revamp of our web site
2006-06-06 5:13 ` Andrew Pinski
@ 2006-06-06 21:38 ` Joe Buck
2006-06-10 22:53 ` Gerald Pfeifer
2006-06-11 20:00 ` Gerald Pfeifer
1 sibling, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Joe Buck @ 2006-06-06 21:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andrew Pinski; +Cc: DJ Delorie, gerald, gcc
On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 09:53:00PM -0700, Andrew Pinski wrote:
> Also what about moving the News up to a noticeable spot since right now
> it is down in a corner so it looks out of place. In fact on my screen
> which is set to 1024x768, I have to scroll to get to the news.
Yes, the top news needs to be on the front page, anything you have to
scroll down for effectively isn't on the front page.
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* Re: [wwwdocs] Complete revamp of our web site
2006-06-05 21:26 ` Martin Michlmayr
@ 2006-06-07 10:43 ` Gerald Pfeifer
2006-06-07 13:08 ` Martin Michlmayr
0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Gerald Pfeifer @ 2006-06-07 10:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Martin Michlmayr; +Cc: gcc
On Mon, 5 Jun 2006, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> * Gerald Pfeifer <gerald@pfeifer.com> [2006-06-05 22:51]:
>> <h1>GCC, the GNU Compiler Collection</h1>
> How about a dash here rather than a comma? Looks nicer imho:
> | <h1>GCC - the GNU Compiler Collection</h1>
The reason I avoid the dash is that, per the FSF guidelines, the
title continues with " - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation".
This is not visible in the plain HTML source, but added automagically
on the server.
We could omit one of GCC or GNU Compiler Collection from the title, or
use "GNU Compiler Collection (GCC)" or "GCC (GNU Compiler Collection)".
I have a slight preference for keeping the status quo, but don't feel
too strongly about it.
Gerald
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* Re: [wwwdocs] Complete revamp of our web site
2006-06-07 10:43 ` Gerald Pfeifer
@ 2006-06-07 13:08 ` Martin Michlmayr
0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Martin Michlmayr @ 2006-06-07 13:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Gerald Pfeifer; +Cc: gcc
* Gerald Pfeifer <gerald@pfeifer.com> [2006-06-07 11:38]:
> I have a slight preference for keeping the status quo
OK.
--
Martin Michlmayr
http://www.cyrius.com/
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* Re: [wwwdocs] Complete revamp of our web site
2006-06-06 21:38 ` Joe Buck
@ 2006-06-10 22:53 ` Gerald Pfeifer
2006-06-10 23:23 ` Andrew Pinski
0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Gerald Pfeifer @ 2006-06-10 22:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Joe Buck; +Cc: Andrew Pinski, DJ Delorie, gcc
On Tue, 6 Jun 2006, Joe Buck wrote:
>> Also what about moving the News up to a noticeable spot since right now
>> it is down in a corner so it looks out of place. In fact on my screen
>> which is set to 1024x768, I have to scroll to get to the news.
> Yes, the top news needs to be on the front page, anything you have to
> scroll down for effectively isn't on the front page.
On those systems I tested, include my notebook, things fit nicely in one
window (basically no scrolling), both before the revamp and thereafter
(this part wasn't really affected by the revamp).
This is good feedback, though. Apparently this affects many users out
there, so let me see what I can do about it.
Gerald
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* Re: [wwwdocs] Complete revamp of our web site
2006-06-10 22:53 ` Gerald Pfeifer
@ 2006-06-10 23:23 ` Andrew Pinski
2006-06-11 2:29 ` Gerald Pfeifer
0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Pinski @ 2006-06-10 23:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Gerald Pfeifer; +Cc: Joe Buck, DJ Delorie, gcc
[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 297 bytes --]
On Jun 10, 2006, at 3:49 PM, Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
>
> This is good feedback, though. Apparently this affects many users out
> there, so let me see what I can do about it.
Attach is what I see currently on the web page, the news is down low
in the lower right.
Barely noticeable.
-- Pinski
[-- Attachment #2: Picture 1.png --]
[-- Type: image/png, Size: 215298 bytes --]
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* Re: [wwwdocs] Complete revamp of our web site
2006-06-10 23:23 ` Andrew Pinski
@ 2006-06-11 2:29 ` Gerald Pfeifer
0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Gerald Pfeifer @ 2006-06-11 2:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andrew Pinski; +Cc: Joe Buck, DJ Delorie, gcc
On Sat, 10 Jun 2006, Andrew Pinski wrote:
> Attach is what I see currently on the web page, the news is down low in the
> lower right.
> Barely noticeable.
Ack. Would you mind sending another screenshot tomorrow evening your time? ;-)
Gerald
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* Re: [wwwdocs] Complete revamp of our web site
2006-06-05 21:28 ` DJ Delorie
2006-06-06 5:13 ` Andrew Pinski
@ 2006-06-11 16:39 ` Gerald Pfeifer
2006-06-12 3:15 ` DJ Delorie
2006-06-12 0:04 ` Gerald Pfeifer
2 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Gerald Pfeifer @ 2006-06-11 16:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: DJ Delorie; +Cc: gcc, gcc-patches
[ gcc-patches added, Reply-To: set ]
On Mon, 5 Jun 2006, DJ Delorie wrote:
> Sidebars should have some enclosing detail, such as a border or a
> shading, so set them off from the rest of the page. Don't rely on
> whitespace to do this job.
On this one, we follow the style of http://www.gnu.org. Looking into the
CSS there, I see that indeed they (and thus us) set a different background
color, alas that color is #fefefe which is white for all practical matters.
I guess this can be considered a bug, so I'll apply the patch below on
gcc.gnu.org in a minute and try to get a discussion with webmaster@gnu.org
on this started. (Viewers of http://www.gnu.org/software/gcc/ will still
get the design in sync with the main page there, but http://gcc.gnu.org
will get the background.)
Okay?
> "Platforms" and "Testing" have bullets; no other item in that list
> does.
Addressed by several changes yesterday. Should be much more consistent
now.
Gerald
Index: gnu.css
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvs/gcc/wwwdocs/htdocs/gnu.css,v
retrieving revision 1.1
diff -u -3 -p -r1.1 gnu.css
--- gnu.css 4 Jun 2006 23:24:17 -0000 1.1
+++ gnu.css 11 Jun 2006 16:23:46 -0000
@@ -73,12 +73,15 @@ a:hover {
font-weight: bold;
}
+/* gcc.gnu.org-local change: sync background-color with the copyright box
+ * instead of #fefefe which is basically white.
+ */
.td_con {
padding-top: 3px;
padding-left: 8px;
padding-bottom: 3px;
color : #303030;
- background-color : #fefefe;
+ background-color: #f2f2f9;
font-size: smaller;
}
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* Re: [wwwdocs] Complete revamp of our web site
2006-06-06 5:13 ` Andrew Pinski
2006-06-06 21:38 ` Joe Buck
@ 2006-06-11 20:00 ` Gerald Pfeifer
2006-06-11 20:20 ` Andrew Pinski
1 sibling, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Gerald Pfeifer @ 2006-06-11 20:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andrew Pinski; +Cc: DJ Delorie, gcc, gcc-patches
[-- Attachment #1: Type: TEXT/PLAIN, Size: 14847 bytes --]
[ gcc-patches added, Reply-To: set ]
On Mon, 5 Jun 2006, Andrew Pinski wrote:
> Also what about moving the News up to a noticeable spot since right now
> it is down in a corner so it looks out of place. In fact on my screen
> which is set to 1024x768, I have to scroll to get to the news.
I believe this also would have been the case for the original design?
But definitely something to address, yes!
> The release info should be at the same level as the news.
Agreed. Does that look better now?
Gerald
Rearrange the various sections on our main page. Use CSS instead of
<small> and adjust formatting for <h2> and <dd>.
Index: index.html
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvs/gcc/wwwdocs/htdocs/index.html,v
retrieving revision 1.567
diff -u -3 -p -r1.567 index.html
--- index.html 11 Jun 2006 15:50:00 -0000 1.567
+++ index.html 11 Jun 2006 19:51:30 -0000
@@ -1,6 +1,10 @@
<html>
<head>
<title>GCC, the GNU Compiler Collection</title>
+<style type="text/css">
+ h2 { font-size: 1.2em; }
+ dd { margin-left:3ex; }
+</style>
</head>
<set-var navigation>
@@ -30,67 +34,17 @@ snapshots</a>.</p>
steering committee</a>, guided by the <a href="gccmission.html">
mission statement</a>.</p>
-<dl>
-
-<dt><strong>Current release series:</strong>
- <a href="gcc-4.1/">GCC 4.1.1</a>
-</dt><dd>
- Status:
- <a href="http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2006-05/msg00345.html">2006-05-15</a>
- (regression fixes and docu only).
- <br />
- <a
- href="http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=4.1&target_milestone=4.0.4&target_milestone=4.1.2&target_milestone=4.2.0&known_to_fail_type=allwordssubstr&known_to_work_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&gcchost_type=allwordssubstr&gcchost=&gcctarget_type=allwordssubstr&gcctarget=&gccbuild_type=allwordssubstr&gccbuild=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=SUSPENDED&bug_status=WAITING&bug_status=REOPENED&priority=P1&priority=P2&priority=P3&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&
;field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0=">Serious
- regressions</a>.
- <a
- href="http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=4.1&target_milestone=4.0.4&target_milestone=4.1.2&target_milestone=4.2.0&known_to_fail_type=allwordssubstr&known_to_work_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&gcchost_type=allwordssubstr&gcchost=&gcctarget_type=allwordssubstr&gcctarget=&gccbuild_type=allwordssubstr&gccbuild=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=SUSPENDED&bug_status=WAITING&bug_status=REOPENED&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-
0=">All
- regressions</a>.
-</dd>
-
-<dt><strong>Previous release series:</strong>
- <a href="gcc-4.0/">GCC 4.0.3</a>
-</dt><dd>
- Status:
- <a href="http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2006-03/msg00364.html">2006-03-10</a>
- (regression fixes and docu only).
- <br />
- <a
- href="http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=4.0&target_milestone=4.0.4&target_milestone=4.1.2&target_milestone=4.2.0&known_to_fail_type=allwordssubstr&known_to_work_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&gcchost_type=allwordssubstr&gcchost=&gcctarget_type=allwordssubstr&gcctarget=&gccbuild_type=allwordssubstr&gccbuild=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=SUSPENDED&bug_status=WAITING&bug_status=REOPENED&priority=P1&priority=P2&priority=P3&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&
field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0=">Serious
- Regressions</a>.
-</dd>
-
-<dt><strong>Previous release series:</strong>
- <a href="gcc-3.4/">GCC 3.4.6</a>
-</dt><dd>
- Status: the branch has been closed.
-</dd>
-
-<dt><strong>Active development:</strong>
- GCC 4.2.0 (<a href="gcc-4.2/changes.html">changes</a>)
-</dt><dd>
- Status: <a href="develop.html#stage3">Stage 3</a>;
- <a href="http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2006-06/msg00120.html">2006-06-04</a>
- (regression fixes and docu only).
- <br />
- <a
- href="http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=4.2&target_milestone=4.0.4&target_milestone=4.1.2&target_milestone=4.2.0&known_to_fail_type=allwordssubstr&known_to_work_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&gcchost_type=allwordssubstr&gcchost=&gcctarget_type=allwordssubstr&gcctarget=&gccbuild_type=allwordssubstr&gccbuild=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=SUSPENDED&bug_status=WAITING&bug_status=REOPENED&priority=P1&priority=P2&priority=P3&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&
field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0=">Serious
- regressions</a>.
- <a
- href="http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=4.2&target_milestone=4.0.4&target_milestone=4.1.2&target_milestone=4.2.0&known_to_fail_type=allwordssubstr&known_to_work_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&gcchost_type=allwordssubstr&gcchost=&gcctarget_type=allwordssubstr&gcctarget=&gccbuild_type=allwordssubstr&gccbuild=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=SUSPENDED&bug_status=WAITING&bug_status=REOPENED&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-
0=">All
- regressions</a>.
-</dd>
-
-</dl>
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+
+<dl>
+
+<dt><strong>Current release series:</strong>
+ <a href="gcc-4.1/">GCC 4.1.1</a>
+</dt><dd>
+ Status:
+ <a href="http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2006-05/msg00345.html">2006-05-15</a>
+ (regression fixes and docu only).
+ <br />
+ <a
+ href="http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=4.1&target_milestone=4.0.4&target_milestone=4.1.2&target_milestone=4.2.0&known_to_fail_type=allwordssubstr&known_to_work_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&gcchost_type=allwordssubstr&gcchost=&gcctarget_type=allwordssubstr&gcctarget=&gccbuild_type=allwordssubstr&gccbuild=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=SUSPENDED&bug_status=WAITING&bug_status=REOPENED&priority=P1&priority=P2&priority=P3&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&
;field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0=">Serious
+ regressions</a>.
+ <a
+ href="http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=4.1&target_milestone=4.0.4&target_milestone=4.1.2&target_milestone=4.2.0&known_to_fail_type=allwordssubstr&known_to_work_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&gcchost_type=allwordssubstr&gcchost=&gcctarget_type=allwordssubstr&gcctarget=&gccbuild_type=allwordssubstr&gccbuild=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=SUSPENDED&bug_status=WAITING&bug_status=REOPENED&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-
0=">All
+ regressions</a>.
+</dd>
+
+<dt><strong>Previous release series:</strong>
+ <a href="gcc-4.0/">GCC 4.0.3</a>
+</dt><dd>
+ Status:
+ <a href="http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2006-03/msg00364.html">2006-03-10</a>
+ (regression fixes and docu only).
+ <br />
+ <a
+ href="http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=4.0&target_milestone=4.0.4&target_milestone=4.1.2&target_milestone=4.2.0&known_to_fail_type=allwordssubstr&known_to_work_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&gcchost_type=allwordssubstr&gcchost=&gcctarget_type=allwordssubstr&gcctarget=&gccbuild_type=allwordssubstr&gccbuild=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=SUSPENDED&bug_status=WAITING&bug_status=REOPENED&priority=P1&priority=P2&priority=P3&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&
field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0=">Serious
+ Regressions</a>.
+</dd>
+
+<dt><strong>Previous release series:</strong>
+ <a href="gcc-3.4/">GCC 3.4.6</a>
+</dt><dd>
+ Status: the branch has been closed.
+</dd>
+
+<dt><strong>Active development:</strong>
+ GCC 4.2.0 (<a href="gcc-4.2/changes.html">changes</a>)
+</dt><dd>
+ Status: <a href="develop.html#stage3">Stage 3</a>;
+ <a href="http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2006-06/msg00120.html">2006-06-04</a>
+ (regression fixes and docu only).
+ <br />
+ <a
+ href="http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=4.2&target_milestone=4.0.4&target_milestone=4.1.2&target_milestone=4.2.0&known_to_fail_type=allwordssubstr&known_to_work_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&gcchost_type=allwordssubstr&gcchost=&gcctarget_type=allwordssubstr&gcctarget=&gccbuild_type=allwordssubstr&gccbuild=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=SUSPENDED&bug_status=WAITING&bug_status=REOPENED&priority=P1&priority=P2&priority=P3&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&
field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0=">Serious
+ regressions</a>.
+ <a
+ href="http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=4.2&target_milestone=4.0.4&target_milestone=4.1.2&target_milestone=4.2.0&known_to_fail_type=allwordssubstr&known_to_work_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&gcchost_type=allwordssubstr&gcchost=&gcctarget_type=allwordssubstr&gcctarget=&gccbuild_type=allwordssubstr&gccbuild=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=SUSPENDED&bug_status=WAITING&bug_status=REOPENED&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-
0=">All
+ regressions</a>.
+</dd>
+
+</dl>
+
+
+<h2>Search our site</h2>
<include searchbox.ihtml>
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* Re: [wwwdocs] Complete revamp of our web site
2006-06-11 20:00 ` Gerald Pfeifer
@ 2006-06-11 20:20 ` Andrew Pinski
0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Pinski @ 2006-06-11 20:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: gcc-patches, Gerald Pfeifer; +Cc: DJ Delorie, gcc
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On Jun 11, 2006, at 12:59 PM, Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
>
>> The release info should be at the same level as the news.
>
> Agreed. Does that look better now?
Yes much better, thanks for fixing this.
Attached is a screen shot of the new design.
Thanks,
Andrew Pinski
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* Re: [wwwdocs] Complete revamp of our web site
2006-06-05 21:28 ` DJ Delorie
2006-06-06 5:13 ` Andrew Pinski
2006-06-11 16:39 ` Gerald Pfeifer
@ 2006-06-12 0:04 ` Gerald Pfeifer
2006-06-12 0:26 ` Daniel Berlin
2006-06-12 3:27 ` DJ Delorie
2 siblings, 2 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Gerald Pfeifer @ 2006-06-12 0:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: DJ Delorie; +Cc: gcc
On Mon, 5 Jun 2006, DJ Delorie wrote:
> Right-side navigation bars are nonstandard. It should be moved to the
> left side. Don't accept the search engine excuse; that's easily
> fixable. Also, by fixing the search engine issue you punish Lynx
> users; the navigation menu is now near (but not at) the end of the
> text.
Is your concern mainly Lynx users (and similar users)? It should be
feasible to move the navigation bar to the beginning for these while
still keeping it on the right side to be in sync with www.gnu.org.
(Which technique would you recommend to address what you refer to as
the "search engine" issue?)
Gerald
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: [wwwdocs] Complete revamp of our web site
2006-06-12 0:04 ` Gerald Pfeifer
@ 2006-06-12 0:26 ` Daniel Berlin
2006-06-12 2:06 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2006-06-12 3:27 ` DJ Delorie
1 sibling, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Berlin @ 2006-06-12 0:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Gerald Pfeifer; +Cc: DJ Delorie, gcc
Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Jun 2006, DJ Delorie wrote:
>> Right-side navigation bars are nonstandard. It should be moved to the
>> left side. Don't accept the search engine excuse; that's easily
>> fixable. Also, by fixing the search engine issue you punish Lynx
>> users; the navigation menu is now near (but not at) the end of the
>> text.
>
> Is your concern mainly Lynx users (and similar users)? It should be
> feasible to move the navigation bar to the beginning for these while
> still keeping it on the right side to be in sync with www.gnu.org.
>
> (Which technique would you recommend to address what you refer to as
> the "search engine" issue?)
I have to ask, why do people use lynx these days when links or elinks
are much faster and better text mode browsers?
I just have a very hard time thinking there are many lynx users these days.
>
> Gerald
>
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: [wwwdocs] Complete revamp of our web site
2006-06-12 0:26 ` Daniel Berlin
@ 2006-06-12 2:06 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Gabriel Dos Reis @ 2006-06-12 2:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Daniel Berlin; +Cc: Gerald Pfeifer, DJ Delorie, gcc
Daniel Berlin <dberlin@dberlin.org> writes:
| > (Which technique would you recommend to address what you refer to as
| > the "search engine" issue?)
|
| I have to ask, why do people use lynx these days when links or elinks
| are much faster and better text mode browsers?
some people don't run imperial machines; for some people, their
experience with lynx and other browsers is that lynx tend to be
more lightweight and much faster.
| I just have a very hard time thinking there are many lynx users these days.
depends on the corner of world you look at.
-- Gaby
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: [wwwdocs] Complete revamp of our web site
2006-06-11 16:39 ` Gerald Pfeifer
@ 2006-06-12 3:15 ` DJ Delorie
0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: DJ Delorie @ 2006-06-12 3:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: gcc-patches, gerald; +Cc: gcc, gcc-patches
> On this one, we follow the style of http://www.gnu.org. Looking
> into the CSS there, I see that indeed they (and thus us) set a
> different background color, alas that color is #fefefe which is
> white for all practical matters.
>
> Okay?
It addresses that issue, yes.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: [wwwdocs] Complete revamp of our web site
2006-06-12 0:04 ` Gerald Pfeifer
2006-06-12 0:26 ` Daniel Berlin
@ 2006-06-12 3:27 ` DJ Delorie
2006-06-12 7:08 ` Dustin Laurence
1 sibling, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: DJ Delorie @ 2006-06-12 3:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: gerald; +Cc: gcc
> Is your concern mainly Lynx users (and similar users)? It should be
> feasible to move the navigation bar to the beginning for these while
> still keeping it on the right side to be in sync with www.gnu.org.
Lynx is an example of a non-GUI browser. All non-GUI browsers would
suffer similarly. I don't think they should be moved to the top; that
messes up search engines, but the usual alternate is to put a set of
links at the *bottom* of the page, not in the middle.
> (Which technique would you recommend to address what you refer to as
> the "search engine" issue?)
http://www.delorie.com/web/ses-hint.html
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread
* Re: [wwwdocs] Complete revamp of our web site
2006-06-12 3:27 ` DJ Delorie
@ 2006-06-12 7:08 ` Dustin Laurence
0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Dustin Laurence @ 2006-06-12 7:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: DJ Delorie; +Cc: gerald, gcc
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FWIW, I much prefer the navigation bar on the left no matter what
browser I'm using.
Dustin
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