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From: Gabriel Dos Reis <gdr@integrable-solutions.net>
To: Andreas Jaeger <aj@suse.de>
Cc: "Kaveh R. Ghazi" <ghazi@caip.rutgers.edu>,
	roger@eyesopen.com, coyote@coyotegulch.com, gcc@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: GCC viciously beaten by ICC in trig test!
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 08:57:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3znaiqyyx.fsf@uniton.integrable-solutions.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3fzcaod9t.fsf@gromit.moeb>

Andreas Jaeger <aj@suse.de> writes:

| "Kaveh R. Ghazi" <ghazi@caip.rutgers.edu> writes:
| 
| >  > The issue is that glibc's headers provide inline implementations for
| >  > sin and cos, and thereby override all of GCC's internal builtin
| >  > processing.  Once this is done, there's nothing tree-ssa, the
| >  > middle-end or the i386 can do to improve the code.  If GCC is to have
| >  > a hope of using "sincos" or SSE2 specific instruction sequences, the
| >  > "best intentions" of glibc's headers (will) have to be neutralized
| >  > first.  Perhaps fixincludes :>
| >
| >
| > Or you can pass -D__NO_INLINE__ on the command line.  I'm of the
| > opinion that we should add that to GCC's specs for all glibc systems.
| >
| > We already do something analogous during bootstrap for GCC itself to
| > disable all of the glibc string inlines.  I don't see why the rest of
| > the world has to suffer through them when these things belong in the
| > compiler anyway.
| 
| If all functions that glibc's header provide are implemented in GCC
| (remember there was a time GCC didn't include any of these
| optimizations and only glibc did), then I propose to get even rid of
| them in glibc.

Agreed.  However, GCC emits native instructions which may be bogus for
some of them -- where Glibc do actual computations.  So when removing
the inlines from Glibc, we should be cautious about some of the native
instructions.

-- Gaby

  reply	other threads:[~2004-03-15  8:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-03-14 23:40 Scott Robert Ladd
2004-03-14 23:49 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-03-15  1:47   ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-03-15  0:11 ` Paolo Carlini
2004-03-15  1:47   ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-03-15  2:07     ` Daniel Berlin
2004-03-15  2:30       ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-03-15  2:31         ` Daniel Berlin
2004-03-15  2:38           ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-03-15 10:00             ` Sebastian Pop
2004-03-15  0:12 ` GCC beaten by ICC in stupid " Andrew Pinski
2004-03-15  0:32   ` Paolo Carlini
2004-03-15  1:31   ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-03-15  2:36   ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-03-15 11:25   ` Paolo Carlini
2004-03-15 11:31     ` Paolo Carlini
2004-03-15 13:29     ` Zdenek Dvorak
2004-03-15 13:42       ` Paolo Carlini
2004-03-15 13:51         ` Zdenek Dvorak
2004-03-15 13:55           ` Paolo Carlini
2004-03-15 14:00             ` Zdenek Dvorak
2004-03-15 14:05           ` Joseph S. Myers
2004-03-15 14:13             ` Paolo Carlini
2004-03-15 14:18               ` Zdenek Dvorak
2004-03-15 14:29                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2004-03-15 14:28               ` Joseph S. Myers
2004-03-15  1:55 ` GCC viciously beaten by ICC in " Roger Sayle
2004-03-15  2:22   ` Dan Nicolaescu
2004-03-15 12:05     ` Stelios Xanthakis
2004-03-15 18:22       ` Dan Nicolaescu
2004-03-15  2:41   ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-03-15  3:05     ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-03-15 14:47       ` Segher Boessenkool
2004-03-15 17:44         ` Geert Bosch
2004-03-15 17:46           ` Geert Bosch
2004-03-15  2:41   ` Kaveh R. Ghazi
2004-03-15  6:06     ` Andreas Jaeger
2004-03-15  8:57       ` Gabriel Dos Reis [this message]
2004-03-15  3:01   ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-03-15  4:06     ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-03-15  5:15   ` James Morrison
2004-03-15  8:20     ` Jakub Jelinek
2004-03-15 18:13       ` Joe Buck
2004-03-16 13:31         ` Jakub Jelinek
2004-03-15  7:42   ` Ranjit Mathew
2004-03-15 19:00   ` Toon Moene
2004-03-15 19:44     ` Laurent GUERBY
2004-03-15  3:19 Stephan T. Lavavej
2004-03-15  3:29 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-03-15 12:40   ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-03-15 12:53     ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-03-15 13:37       ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-03-15 15:11     ` Ian Lance Taylor
2004-03-15 16:25       ` Stephan T. Lavavej
2004-03-15 16:40         ` Jakub Jelinek
2004-03-15 16:46         ` Ian Lance Taylor
2004-03-15 16:56           ` Paolo Carlini
2004-03-15 17:10             ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-03-15 17:15               ` Paolo Carlini
2004-03-15 17:58                 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-03-15 16:59           ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-03-15 17:28             ` Ian Lance Taylor
2004-03-15 17:47               ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-03-15 17:52               ` Joe Buck
2004-03-15 17:53               ` Phil Edwards
2004-03-15 17:45     ` Joe Buck
2004-03-15 19:50       ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-03-16  1:00     ` Zack Weinberg
2004-03-17  0:07       ` Kai Henningsen
2004-03-16 23:12   ` Kai Henningsen
2004-03-17  3:00     ` Ian Lance Taylor
2004-03-15 17:42 ` Joe Buck
2004-03-17  0:31 Stephan T. Lavavej
2004-03-17  3:30 ` Ian Lance Taylor

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