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From: Ian Lance Taylor <iant@google.com>
To: Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>
Cc: Basile Starynkevitch <basile@starynkevitch.net>,
	       Mike Stump <mikestump@comcast.net>,
	David Edelsohn <dje.gcc@gmail.com>,
	       gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org, gcc@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: PATCH RFA: Build stages 2 and 3 with C++
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 19:40:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <mcrsjpzy02b.fsf@coign.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110721160603.GS2687@tyan-ft48-01.lab.bos.redhat.com> (Jakub	Jelinek's message of "Thu, 21 Jul 2011 18:06:03 +0200")

Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com> writes:

> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 08:51:46AM -0700, Ian Lance Taylor wrote:
>> Basile Starynkevitch <basile@starynkevitch.net> writes:
>> 
>> > I have a similar issue in the MELT branch, and I am passing to -frandom-seed the md5sum
>> > of relevant source files. With such a trick, the seed is reproducible from one build to
>> > the next one (of the exact same source tree), and does provide much more randomness than
>> > just using 0 all the time.
>> 
>> In practice I think it is fine to just pass the source file name to
>> -frandom-seed.  That's what the patch I sent out does.  The source file
>> name should be unique within a given program.
>
> Isn't the filename already encoded in what get_file_function_name returns?
> It is <filename>_<weak_var_name_crc32>_<random_seed_crc32>, so IMHO
> -frandom-seed=$@ brings almost no advantages at all over -frandom-seed=0.
> Except perhaps for the characters from the filename that are
> wiped into _ by clean_symbol_name.

That's a fair point, but I guess I still think using the file name with
-frandom-seed is going to be more future-proof against other users of
random numbers.

Ian

  reply	other threads:[~2011-07-21 18:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-16  6:56 Ian Lance Taylor
2011-07-16  7:05 ` Andrew Pinski
2011-07-16  7:48   ` Ian Lance Taylor
2011-07-16  7:59     ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-07-17  3:17       ` Ian Lance Taylor
2011-07-16 16:11 ` Diego Novillo
2011-07-16 22:58   ` Ian Lance Taylor
2011-07-17 10:36     ` Richard Guenther
2011-07-17 12:21       ` Eric Botcazou
2011-07-17 16:55         ` Richard Guenther
2011-07-17 17:55           ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2011-07-17 22:37             ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2011-09-04 17:20   ` Thomas Schwinge
2011-07-16 20:40 ` Toon Moene
2011-07-19 21:33 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2011-07-19 22:24   ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2011-07-20  0:46   ` H.J. Lu
2011-07-20  1:15     ` H.J. Lu
2011-07-20  6:28   ` David Edelsohn
2011-07-20  9:34     ` Jonathan Wakely
2011-07-20 11:02       ` Jonathan Wakely
2011-07-20 12:41         ` David Edelsohn
2011-07-20 12:48           ` Richard Guenther
2011-07-20 14:07             ` Diego Novillo
2011-07-20 14:34               ` Ian Lance Taylor
2011-07-20 15:35                 ` Jonathan Wakely
2011-07-20 15:06   ` Toon Moene
2011-07-20 15:23     ` Ian Lance Taylor
2011-07-20 15:53       ` David Edelsohn
2011-07-20 15:55         ` Ian Lance Taylor
2011-07-20 20:05           ` David Edelsohn
2011-07-20 20:53             ` Ian Lance Taylor
2011-07-20 21:06               ` Mike Stump
2011-07-21  0:10                 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2011-07-21  9:40                   ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-07-21 16:06                     ` Ian Lance Taylor
2011-07-21 17:44                       ` Jakub Jelinek
2011-07-21 19:40                         ` Ian Lance Taylor [this message]
2011-07-21 20:12                           ` Basile Starynkevitch
2011-07-21 22:38                             ` Ian Lance Taylor
2011-07-21  6:57                 ` David Edelsohn
2011-07-21  7:25                   ` Eric Botcazou
2011-07-21 14:24               ` David Edelsohn
2011-07-20 17:58         ` Thomas Schwinge
2011-07-20 21:41     ` Toon Moene
2011-07-31 23:20 ` Marc Glisse
2011-08-01  9:14   ` Richard Guenther
2011-08-01  9:53     ` Joseph S. Myers
2011-08-01  9:59       ` Richard Guenther
2011-08-01 10:05       ` Marc Glisse
2011-08-08 17:42 ` Romain Geissler
2011-08-08 18:49   ` Ian Lance Taylor
2011-08-08 19:40     ` Romain Geissler

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