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From: Richard Sandiford <richard.sandiford@arm.com>
To: Ulrich Drepper via Gcc <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>
Cc: Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] database with API information
Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2022 11:56:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <mptczc7a1w1.fsf@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP3s5k_R2sMuG-MT8mgDXi0xWOZSsqL-ZCPd5Xt78_Jv3xMCMA@mail.gmail.com> (Ulrich Drepper via Gcc's message of "Wed, 7 Sep 2022 08:22:41 +0200")

Ulrich Drepper via Gcc <gcc@gcc.gnu.org> writes:
> I talked to Jonathan the other day about adding all the C++ library APIs to
> the name hint file now that the size of the table is not really a concern
> anymore.
>
> Jonathan mentioned that he has to create and maintain a similar file for
> the module support.  It needs to list all the exported interfaces and this
> is mostly a superset of the entries in the hint table.
>
> Instead of duplicating the information it should be kept in one place.
> Neither file itself is a natural fit because the additional information
> needed  (e.g., the standard version information for the name hint table) is
> not needed in the other location.
>
> Hence, let's use a simple database, a CSV file for simplicity, and generate
> both files from this.  Easily done, I have an appropriate script and a CSV
> file with the information of both Jonathan's current export file and the
> current state of the name hint table.
>
> The only detail that keeps me from submitting this right now is the way the
> script is implemented.  This is just a natural fit for a Python script.
> The default installation comes with a csv module and there are nice ways to
> adjust and output boilerplate headers like those needed in those files.
>
> It would be possible to create separate awk scripts (there is only one
> Python script) but it'll be rather ugly and harder to maintain than the
> Python version.
>
> Of course the problem is: I don't think that there is yet any maintainer
> tool written in Python (except some release engineering tools).  The
> question is therefore: is it time to lift this restriction?  I cannot today
> imagine any machine capable of serving a gcc developer which doesn't also
> have a Python implementation.  As long as there is no dependency on exotic
> modules I doubt that anything will break.

FWIW, I agree it's past time to lift the no-Python restriction,
and that Python is a natural fit for stuff like this.

Thanks,
Richard

  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-07 10:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-07  6:22 Ulrich Drepper
2022-09-07 10:56 ` Richard Sandiford [this message]
2022-09-07 12:33   ` Martin Liška
2022-09-09 15:26     ` Iain Sandoe
2022-09-09 17:07       ` Ulrich Drepper
2022-09-09 17:13         ` Iain Sandoe
2022-09-09 11:40 ` SAIFI
2022-09-09 11:47   ` Jonathan Wakely
2022-09-09 12:29     ` SAIFI
2022-09-09 15:06       ` Jonathan Wakely
2022-09-09 16:41         ` SAIFI
2022-09-09 18:21           ` Jonathan Wakely
2022-09-09 18:40             ` SAIFI
2022-09-09 20:05               ` Jonathan Wakely

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