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From: Richard Sandiford <richard.sandiford@arm.com>
To: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: "Qian\, Jianhua" <qianjh@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	"gcc\@gcc.gnu.org" <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: A problem with one instruction multiple latencies and pipelines
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 20:35:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <mpth7s05ey7.fsf@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200914184152.GZ28786@gate.crashing.org> (Segher Boessenkool's message of "Mon, 14 Sep 2020 13:41:52 -0500")

Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org> writes:
>> Although this looks/sounds complicated, the advantage is that everything
>> remains up-to-date.  If we instead added a second attribute and only
>> defined it for instructions like *add_<shift>_<mode>, other instructions
>> (including config/arm instructions) would still have type alu_shift_imm
>> but would have a shift_imm_value of "none".
>
> I would make an attribute for the mode (or data size really), and one
> that says the insn uses shifted data (since many arm insns have that,
> just like record form on PowerPC is everywhere).  And you can have that
> one filled "by magic" usually!

I don't think this is really answering my point above though.
What I meant is: we currently have several instructions in config/arm
and config/aarch64 that have type alu_shift_imm.  If we add some new
on-the-side attributes A, but only update *some* of the alu_shift_imm
instructions to define A (either directly or indirectly), then the other
alu_shift_imm instructions will have the default values for A.
This probably isn't the intended effect.  Ideally, every alu_shift_imm
instruction would specify correct attribute values for A (specifically,
to indicate whether the shift value is in [1, 4] or not).

In contrast, one advantage of replacing the existing alu_shift_imm type
with two new types is that any existing reference to the old type will
cause a build failure.  So keeping everything in a single type
attributes gives us static type checking that the information for each
(former) alu_shift_imm instruction is complete.  Similarly for any other
type that needs to be split in the same way.

I realise this won't convince you, and I'm not trying to. :-)

Thanks,
Richard

  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-14 19:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-07  6:08 Qian, Jianhua
2020-09-07  7:40 ` Richard Biener
2020-09-07  8:45   ` Qian, Jianhua
2020-09-07 11:58     ` Richard Biener
2020-09-07 20:20 ` Richard Sandiford
2020-09-08  5:34   ` Qian, Jianhua
2020-09-09 21:22   ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-09-10  5:01     ` Qian, Jianhua
2020-09-10 10:04     ` Richard Sandiford
2020-09-10 23:00       ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-09-11  7:44         ` Richard Sandiford
2020-09-11 13:58           ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-09-14  5:41             ` Qian, Jianhua
2020-09-14  9:55               ` Richard Sandiford
2020-09-14 18:41                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-09-14 19:35                   ` Richard Sandiford [this message]
2020-09-14 22:14                     ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-09-11 13:30 ` Richard Earnshaw
2020-09-14  2:53   ` Qian, Jianhua
2020-09-14  9:08     ` Richard Earnshaw

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