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From: Richard Biener <rguenther@suse.de>
To: Nicholas Krause <xerofoify@gmail.com>
Cc: gcc@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: Multi-Threading GCC Compiler Internal Data
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2019 08:01:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <nycvar.YFH.7.76.1909180959440.5566@zhemvz.fhfr.qr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c357c289-c1a6-6266-0345-0315e9345653@gmail.com>

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On Tue, 17 Sep 2019, Nicholas Krause wrote:

> 
> On 9/17/19 2:37 AM, Richard Biener wrote:
> > On Mon, 16 Sep 2019, Nicholas Krause wrote:
> >
> >> Greetings Richard,
> >>
> >> I don't know if it's currently possible but whats the best way to either so
> >> about or
> >>
> >> use a tool to expose shared state at both the GIMPLE and RTL level.  This
> >> would
> >>
> >> allow us to figure out much better what algorthims or data structures to
> >> choose
> >>
> >> to allow this to scale much better than the current prototype.
> > You are mixing independent issues.  Shared state needs to be identified
> > and protected for correctness reasons.  In some cases changing the
> > data structure to be protected can make it cheaper to do so.  The
> > scaling of the current prototype is limited by the fraction of the
> > compilation we parallelize as well as the granularity.
> >
> > Going forward the most useful things are a) reducing the amount of
> > state that ends up being shared when we paralellize, b) increase
> > the fraction of the compilation we paralellize by tackling
> > RTL optimizations and the early GIMPLE pipeline
> >
> > The prototype showed that paralellization is beneficial and that it
> > can be done with a reasonable amount of work.
> >
> > Richard.
> >
> Richard,
> 
> Sorry I think your misunderstanding me. I was asking whats the best way to
> 
> write a tool to expose twhere and how the shared state is using being used.

Such tool would need to solve the halting problem so it cannot exist.

Richard.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-09-18  8:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-16 18:25 Nicholas Krause
2019-09-17  6:37 ` Richard Biener
2019-09-17 15:20   ` Nicholas Krause
2019-09-18  8:01     ` Richard Biener [this message]
2019-09-18 20:09       ` Nicholas Krause

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