From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org (eggs.gnu.org [209.51.188.92]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 495E93857BA3 for ; Sun, 17 Jul 2022 18:57:04 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.1 sourceware.org 495E93857BA3 Received: from linux-libre.fsfla.org ([209.51.188.54]:52298 helo=free.home) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oD9Pl-0003St-6X; Sun, 17 Jul 2022 14:54:49 -0400 Received: from livre (livre.home [172.31.160.2]) by free.home (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 26HIsaHB1466201 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 17 Jul 2022 15:54:37 -0300 From: Alexandre Oliva To: Mark Wielaard Cc: lkcl , GCC developers Subject: Re: rust non-free-compatible trademark Organization: Free thinker, not speaking for the GNU Project References: <20220717163100.GA1558@gnu.wildebeest.org> <20220717174101.GA4487@gnu.wildebeest.org> Errors-To: aoliva@lxoliva.fsfla.org Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2022 15:54:36 -0300 In-Reply-To: <20220717174101.GA4487@gnu.wildebeest.org> (Mark Wielaard's message of "Sun, 17 Jul 2022 19:41:01 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.84 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, KAM_DMARC_STATUS, SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_PASS, TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: gcc@gcc.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Gcc mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2022 18:57:06 -0000 On Jul 17, 2022, Mark Wielaard wrote: > None of that required a trademark license because the usage of the > word java was just for compatibility with the java programming > language. "just for compatibility" is an defense that applies to copyrights, but AFAIK it doesn't apply to trademarks. indeed, one can probably still find records suggesting that gcj got its name, "GNU Compiler for Java", that way rather than the more natural phrasing "Java Compiler", because the Java trademark was liberally licensed for use in the form "for Java", whereas other uses were not. -- Alexandre Oliva, happy hacker https://FSFLA.org/blogs/lxo/ Free Software Activist GNU Toolchain Engineer Disinformation flourishes because many people care deeply about injustice but very few check the facts. Ask me about