From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [IPv6:2001:470:142:3::e]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB6A23857C71 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 2021 18:28:36 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org CB6A23857C71 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50138) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lVeox-0007k1-Kh for gcc@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2021 14:28:35 -0400 Received: from linux-libre.fsfla.org ([209.51.188.54]:36726 helo=free.home) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lVeow-000526-Tg; Sun, 11 Apr 2021 14:28:31 -0400 Received: from livre (livre.home [172.31.160.2]) by free.home (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 13BISMlv1120125 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 11 Apr 2021 15:28:22 -0300 From: Alexandre Oliva To: Jonathan Wakely Cc: Gerald Pfeifer , gcc@gnu.org Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF Organization: Free thinker, not speaking for the GNU Project References: <6aca6d2f057a5bbbd23016c1518f1beeef1c1f96.camel@redhat.com> <20210407162454.GA22759@jocasta.intra> <20210408064528.GA10349@jocasta.intra> <94ca414af699bab851008f86f006db4bd8bf1929.camel@redhat.com> <20210408182128.GA19715@jocasta.intra> <5f532c131146b9c7549f03eac7a9da3a29db1a2e.camel@redhat.com> <20210409063749.GA8596@jocasta.intra> <04fa3173-9809-b905-8fa3-f6554b8ae7d7@hesbynett.no> <06eb8287-e6bb-270f-e5a5-730c10bb31ef@hesbynett.no> <5a4a24bf9e3cc2299793c53516f6a20c@appliantology.com> <20210410201052.841C433CAC@vlsi1.gnat.com> <1e307343-c6cd-fcc8-d734-623b70619081@pfeifer.com> Errors-To: aoliva@lxoliva.fsfla.org Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2021 15:28:22 -0300 In-Reply-To: (Jonathan Wakely's message of "Sun, 11 Apr 2021 15:17:31 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.84 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, KAM_DMARC_STATUS, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS, TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: gcc@gcc.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Gcc mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2021 18:28:41 -0000 Jonathan, It's very offensive for you to misattribute a disagreeing position as veneration. I could name many reasons for me to disagree with yours, including justice, truth, honesty, tolerance, freedom of speech and unity of the movement. If anything, it's threatening to abandon a project over false allegations about a person, on occasion of that person rejoining the board of an organization that was founded and has always supported the project who's still led by that person, that makes the issue personal and based on blind faith, though in the opposite sense of veneration. If you find any offense in the previous paragraph, you understand exactly why I feel offended by your retort, so please try to take that into account in your attempts to participate in a kind debate. -- Alexandre Oliva, happy hacker https://FSFLA.org/blogs/lxo/ Free Software Activist GNU Toolchain Engineer Vim, Vi, Voltei pro Emacs -- GNUlius Caesar