From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30709 invoked by alias); 26 Dec 2007 04:53:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 30695 invoked by uid 22791); 26 Dec 2007 04:53:48 -0000 X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from mx1.redhat.com (HELO mx1.redhat.com) (66.187.233.31) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.31) with ESMTP; Wed, 26 Dec 2007 04:53:42 +0000 Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.254]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBQ4rdpc001110; Tue, 25 Dec 2007 23:53:39 -0500 Received: from pobox.corp.redhat.com (pobox.corp.redhat.com [10.11.255.20]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lBQ4rcxj022536; Tue, 25 Dec 2007 23:53:38 -0500 Received: from livre.oliva.athome.lsd.ic.unicamp.br (vpn-14-23.rdu.redhat.com [10.11.14.23]) by pobox.corp.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lBQ4radp018004; Tue, 25 Dec 2007 23:53:37 -0500 Received: from livre.oliva.athome.lsd.ic.unicamp.br (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by livre.oliva.athome.lsd.ic.unicamp.br (8.14.2/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lBQ4rXM6016972; Wed, 26 Dec 2007 02:53:34 -0200 Received: (from aoliva@localhost) by livre.oliva.athome.lsd.ic.unicamp.br (8.14.2/8.14.1/Submit) id lBQ4rQc6016970; Wed, 26 Dec 2007 02:53:26 -0200 To: tejgcc@westnet.com.au Cc: Richard Kenner , dberlin@dberlin.org, bernds_cb1@t-online.de, ebotcazou@libertysurf.fr, gcc@gcc.gnu.org, sam@rfc1149.net, schwab@suse.de Subject: Re: Rant about ChangeLog entries and commit messages References: <2007-12-02-11-05-39+trackit+sam@rfc1149.net> <200712022136.57819.ebotcazou@libertysurf.fr> <4aca3dc20712021240k19f3eae5j66453276179c401a@mail.gmail.com> <200712022355.23871.ebotcazou@libertysurf.fr> <4aca3dc20712021621n39a036d2u21f471f231dfffe@mail.gmail.com> <10712031329.AA20246@vlsi1.ultra.nyu.edu> <1198609072.25084.14.camel@tim-gcc> From: Alexandre Oliva Errors-To: aoliva@oliva.athome.lsd.ic.unicamp.br Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 06:00:00 -0000 In-Reply-To: <1198609072.25084.14.camel@tim-gcc> (Tim Josling's message of "Wed\, 26 Dec 2007 05\:57\:52 +1100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mailing-List: contact gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: Sender: gcc-owner@gcc.gnu.org X-SW-Source: 2007-12/txt/msg00683.txt.bz2 On Dec 25, 2007, Tim Josling wrote: > On Sat, 2007-12-15 at 20:54 -0200, Alexandre Oliva wrote: >> ... a good example of compliance with the GPL: >> 5. Conveying Modified Source Versions. >> >> a) The work must carry prominent notices stating that you modified >> it, and giving a relevant date. > (Minor quibble) As copyright owner of GCC, the FSF is not bound by the > conditions of the licence it grants in the same way as licencees are > bound. Of course. That's exactly why I wrote "good example". It wouldn't be nice if the FSF itself didn't set the example for others who modify the code to follow. On top of that, I believe whoever modifies the code and publishes the modification, even if just to contribute it to the FSF, is bound by the terms of the GPL, and terefore the code modification carry the required prominent notices. Of course the FSF, being copyright holder, could choose to throw them all away. > This may possibly work when the mailing list entries exist and are > accessible. True, off-line access to resources that are on-line only or even permanently inaccessible doesn't work. Been there, done that, it's a pain to deal with lack of information. -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.lsd.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ FSF Latin America Board Member http://www.fsfla.org/ Red Hat Compiler Engineer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org}