From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp-out1.suse.de (smtp-out1.suse.de [195.135.220.28]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 67DA738515C3 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2023 13:55:49 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.2 sourceware.org 67DA738515C3 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=suse.cz Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=suse.cz Received: from imap2.suse-dmz.suse.de (imap2.suse-dmz.suse.de [192.168.254.74]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-521) server-digest SHA512) (No client certificate requested) by smtp-out1.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7EDCA21A6E; Fri, 17 Mar 2023 13:55:48 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=suse.cz; s=susede2_rsa; t=1679061348; h=from:from:reply-to:date:date:message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc: mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=c41XnWW7G8NMig3udrJxkNTf62FYhih2RbjN8UT3swI=; b=N0wK4+cGJBpWAC+8k7MGysO61fOVcrMK0Vd5kIPqyo6yw6TiyXXpQbsGrhd4VqTD4oFq6I Vs0OgJ1IWZ5vghPLgQN2hdrzRTfABxdSBP4fbsc1IKpaWRcGFR4SPC7DXcJ7CstwEeXzVv b/1USPoTxk5ZKfM25bGzPAitrp3GC90= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=ed25519-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=suse.cz; s=susede2_ed25519; t=1679061348; h=from:from:reply-to:date:date:message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc: mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=c41XnWW7G8NMig3udrJxkNTf62FYhih2RbjN8UT3swI=; b=olo//aP10ycHbMPNUKi8vPZLPKCkAuFvHgMWAI1LdRhoiYm2V9ZriTRidJPRCO/gv/WHYM UEM7rk+GctP/BFCA== Received: from imap2.suse-dmz.suse.de (imap2.suse-dmz.suse.de [192.168.254.74]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-521) server-digest SHA512) (No client certificate requested) by imap2.suse-dmz.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6ACF91346F; Fri, 17 Mar 2023 13:55:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dovecot-director2.suse.de ([192.168.254.65]) by imap2.suse-dmz.suse.de with ESMTPSA id R5yVGWRxFGQmZwAAMHmgww (envelope-from ); Fri, 17 Mar 2023 13:55:48 +0000 From: Martin Jambor To: Kristiyan Stoimenov Cc: GCC Mailing List , David Malcolm Subject: Re: GSoC: Interest in taking the `-ftime-trace` project In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Notmuch/0.37 (https://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/28.2 (x86_64-suse-linux-gnu) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2023 14:55:43 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,KAM_SHORT,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org List-Id: Hello Kristiyan, sorry for a late reply, I'm struggling with email recently. On Sun, Mar 12 2023, Kristiyan Stoimenov wrote: > Hello, > > Thanks very much for your advice. They were very helpful to me. > > I have written a draft about the application and I would like to share it > with you in order to get any ideas for improving it. I assume the proposal is for a 175 hour (medium-sized) project? I would really like to see an expected time-line of the project. It is expected that it will change substantially, but I want to know that applicants understand what mile-stones there are in their project and that they have a rough idea what the first steps are going to be. Applicants which cannot plan much more for their first week beyond "familiarizing with the project" often turn up not to have the technical skills to make much progress, let alone successfully complete a project. I understand that means that I am asking you to do a chunk of what you expect to be the most difficult bit of work - figuring GCC out - now, but unfortunately there is no way around it. I hope the existing plug-in would help you and definitely feel free to keep asking any questions you may have about GCC. Sorry if the above sounds harsh, I definitely do not want to put you off, but it is important. GSoC application selection can be competitive and for many reasons we want to be 100% sure that we task our mentors only with guiding capable students. Good luck! Martin > > Thanks in advance for your feedback. > > Best regards, > Kristiyan > > On Wed, 1 Mar 2023 at 20:57, Martin Jambor wrote: > >> Hello Kristiyan, >> >> On Wed, Feb 08 2023, Kristiyan Stoimenov via Gcc wrote: >> > Hello, >> > >> > I would like to ask whether I could be part of the upcoming GSoC. I have >> > been wanting to contribute to the project for some time now and I think >> > that this would be a nice opportunity for that. >> > >> > I have looked into the different starter projects that are offered in the >> > [Wiki GSoC page](https://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/SummerOfCode) and I was >> > particularly interested in the `-ftime-trace` project. >> >> In case you have not noticed, there was a message to this mailing list a >> week ago ( https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc/2023-February/240756.html ) >> about a basic implementation of this in a plug-in located at >> >> https://github.com/royjacobson/externis >> >> This may help you with thinking about the task and writing your >> proposal. Of course, the resulting project would have to be not a >> plugin and aim to give users more insight into the compilation process >> to be successful. But it may be a useful starting point. >> >> Apart from that, all David's advice was of course very good (but >> meanwhile we got accepted as a mentoring Org). >> >> Good luck! >> >> Martin >> >>