From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.22]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 727793851C1C for ; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 17:43:00 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org 727793851C1C X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [213.165.168.94] ([213.165.168.94]) by web-mail.gmx.net (3c-app-mailcom-bs09.server.lan [172.19.170.177]) (via HTTP); Thu, 15 Apr 2021 19:42:56 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: From: Christopher Dimech To: richard.guenther@gmail.com Cc: Jason Merrill , Thomas Koenig , gcc mailing list Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2021 19:42:56 +0200 Importance: normal Sensitivity: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <81abf7b0-cc9e-78d3-c254-8581bce8edd6@gmail.com> <1b73a3d2-4e7e-d226-ccc6-5002997b1ea0@netcologne.de> <4d1e7a20-5b8e-3cf5-84a2-54414e348d3a@gmail.com> <2d64cd98-91ce-06c0-de31-fc0366d9651c@netcologne.de> <88a60988-8f65-d1b2-f822-f223fa180a6d@gmail.com> <6fcc2383-8bc3-6cd9-0f8c-567048511ba7@netcologne.de> <08ac68f3-17a5-fb70-3894-090a122a2dea@netcologne.de> X-UI-Message-Type: mail X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:rms6Y4iYgiWmF480loeRgOfCffJ1qXHnX4VfEbE9j/T/HEqzyC4H5b8vDsAwU1mPD5Tab A3mKp46+XyTfB/bjtbL6bkkVYZFpGG5YAqhtLkNZQidkqnBIVccq0K4nINnZotGpeaZ/Tq+PYV6e 8lbc75RCwXOc5qn2buJxv/Uzod6bQfW8yE7EbOd9WJHmE5OZvTUrZTAOw64s1tckEfyLbupGD6Rx en/Nki5EVZSe9ZmSpDiSmEV03+tHJR8M6gMzMgnbmA6z6QuBR1nC5a+D0mB0DHpEBYl+lcGeKECI xU= X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:gKLxmjSS2ZI=:bohTz+ZNbgsxy1QMPRgk64 YcTBH44Uf2hCayaR8VtsKrzSRHObTGaIVuPq3niMGEkH3ehLDGeWgND+iTV4mq8R/YW6MCnCB oQdVqO+FZig22iyn9gvtuO/wHQbUwDzpSis5bQil03Q0ssrWkiVEz9IkJ2EJyRhgfMIC6smqm ckLIZOuLuUobg1dW0InwID5YVMUMtGbngQzOPCnJ75JlHJy7CefPNgfPyUIQgpL4JS9nHIxvv wQ8YeIOyT/SBW33CESpkLpajrYdpJUCff3CcU1+COlhUZ+Ujk3cTEN0XZDCEdxxPDAWW9lIM1 uluCaHuzJSlhFd3Fp/DH8M72oCEhfotve6d1G8uDL/Uiq28exPIXQ6bqwA91Rw7g80YlF98rV LMRZGsgSOrzGmpBOQaW+FR8uo3K4DrHw8qqcO09HZ8lBAoXW2iQMQhqWNqyHkC8hRMMIjqAYC yqlxUp6rKsvnAOccvj4MjcKKc83GlQW1nmnAzVn4tEHOsnG7bBHRtaYCLAjWP4M8JqgptRKHk V8qA4Nr1kWdh+vopR67F7GZk9SrZG+xLsHilDOaFQzoxbgk2BgffqZW2fDviA9PmxrnkUjt00 dXpc9CQJ1xKp1Vzc3GQjNs3ATL38MyIzLAkchEum4XH8LayHC+Ana3+g6TEhoHi+Lxtnn+8Nt Uei88sGUmhqR7avDYeilrauPpvFIOzOAgX6vjUwbII0YKowxoaZCxtc57xEXmqo5yfxWX5UGR ZDmZyzsjxu3d3mAV1rEszwVeFLgyhMozTMl+YHRuIsbJKvqKM+gbl0XggXhSeCXaDJZgmBijv /ujsQjIzkEUDx8sp/LqAqxpt9clI2GrC6yl/jlbU9vetLDGQFXKmZ/B96y+W864yR/B3jFbsX YzOEjEAYmz1XSL/nZI7h+Y66LgnjpIVnTjzFD4n3ZL6UpPRaIvCiUWKbnMH/wR Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3032.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS, TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: gcc@gcc.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Gcc mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2021 17:43:02 -0000 > Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 at 4:24 AM > From: "Richard Biener via Gcc" > To: "Jason Merrill" > Cc: "Thomas Koenig" , "gcc mailing list" > Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF > > On April 15, 2021 6:02:50 PM GMT+02:00, Jason Merrill = wrote: > >On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 8:08 AM Richard Biener via Gcc > > wrote: > >> On April 14, 2021 12:19:16 PM GMT+02:00, Jonathan Wakely via Gcc > > wrote: > >> >N.B. Jeff is no longer @redhat.com so I've changed the CC > >> >On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 at 11:03, Thomas Koenig > >> >wrote: > >> >> - All gfortran developers move to the new branch. This will not > >> >> happen, I can guarantee you that. > >> > > >> >This is the part I'm curious about (the rest is obvious, it follows > >> >from there being finite resources and the nature of any fork). But > >I'm > >> >not going to press for reasons. > >> > >> Note the only viable fork will be on the current hosting (which isn't > >FSF controlled) with the downside of eventually losing the gcc.gnu.org > >DNS and thus a need to "switch" to a sourceware.org name. > > > >It seems wrong to call such a scenario a fork. If someone wanted to > >fork GCC they are free to do so, but changing the relationship with > >GNU/FSF is not a fork, as there would continue to be one primary > >source repository. Correct, but whatever happens, the association with RMS will remain. Thusly the impasse is not going away. A fork would work, but then the secessionists' intention is to carry on with the Gcc tag, because of its respected position in the world of science and technology. > True. That's definitely better communication. > > Richard. > > >Jason > >