From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.18]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E6C8D393D038 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2021 18:30:31 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org E6C8D393D038 X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [213.165.168.94] ([213.165.168.94]) by web-mail.gmx.net (3c-app-mailcom-bs14.server.lan [172.19.170.182]) (via HTTP); Wed, 14 Apr 2021 20:30:26 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: From: Christopher Dimech To: Nathan Sidwell Cc: Martin Jambor , "gcc@gcc.gnu.org" Subject: Re: removing toxic emailers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 20:30:26 +0200 Importance: normal Sensitivity: Normal In-Reply-To: References: X-UI-Message-Type: mail X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:xjh9JDI4KT0d/BNtRn4uL5lC8tGPNBqGocax3JO8haapMqg1el+wFv3mPpDzVU2VZCbmt 1bD8H8XHWhFFCwPufc1D/SnRsEeksRyMCoiXCGK48rh5Kyr8t03+bu0Ea/5M00PHHp+0nrjVkXtc mnJUTPKgx5ucd1oGMf4ImGUskUF2uFAmy5sNWl2r+L/L8DMgCpf4KJyEwQYy2c6LRfJuaWSmnO8i JK7SpMlyUW4ruYmswsmTTWJFznkJFGQsCisVRYE4M2LGetIeY6EuOchD57qoMONZ5gpduJKaErj2 M4= X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:rNsoxhtNN90=:qKSsWgJKc5uiUA/iDVrpHA wnnDy+u3mORtXasBggvF1vXIYMlqUmS7x/oOfLyPIZGQNNooTk/zZ1PbV6ZIiPK+YpWSpWabT sTGJD5aAQ8xkoWt1WgZ5G8ShzEhvVGh5MR8yzhdB84Nk4ONmxWbD0BlJ3nO3vt5JsMsPS/IpH PdUKUTu0/E+f40pTe9oxwvJxNxc1pKNf4Li9Ldw38Cl+e7magaUJneUIcZ2A91VuywMplfF2n 0r2mlzcx4xQMcXmnJltnjTb7hmCBq/mYc7rrk8+vEzNch7MBeK8HKngLFvh7dfim9685r1yS5 Lz5MSewp90qZPhVgbWxJfkJFLOOuuMQ+K81TYldXNzn7U+n+cWZ+6SJOS5VliyXoWSvEoiZ4F mkzkoXC1fMDfUHh3dzY2ys+S5tWbLhXl+gA1+E648GKjk8d5UFb3Vmvg0Mv6Vs/c0AGl19uFz YMxxvsmbV+mTs9mDaCWBkLrOkZ7yjMeZI1kDGkReyo1B67N/8QxRQMsrNKKXu+g95UlObh4A5 aoM/BWQEks5aAjqg+WZY25Ohf8GUsKFWctHOSXuBjGKSI5fZIQwKL7rHuYWImYiOu8i5Zsi3F 7dIjO+qxAVZPPRT9O2X9ehE3k2w/fP5vMiv39gUpPujzh2QA5dpalQZQbk0vBiBEk6LlfKbLl 09sSfdLegAUSArkv/qkODnBwur3HzO5zJFwrvtWwveyFUKqozPbMzsCQ9No1SY4bh3dQ/I4K1 gGM1kH0wh0K8EBpqAOxm0FvNPfvMIAu/r0IrDuuGLeMqqK8JgsO4lDOZ52LxPuZCq3kfZbe4/ sv0d+KeY30AQ4nG66sX8q8TT00VDH1ZeIpZ/Tc/rAVYhDimF8o6oIUhRstEfoi1AnLr0oSMjF qXal3LA1NGN/82Pqh/YIhEQI+7ZgTQA7ZlARSLFlGwDEsN0pdMq021W/mCJVsP Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3032.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS, TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: gcc@gcc.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Gcc mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 18:30:33 -0000 > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 at 6:19 AM > From: "Nathan Sidwell" > To: "Martin Jambor" , "gcc@gcc.gnu.org" > Subject: Re: removing toxic emailers > > On 4/14/21 12:52 PM, Martin Jambor wrote: > > Hi Nathan, > > > > On Wed, Apr 14 2021, Nathan Sidwell wrote: > >> Do we have a policy about removing list subscribers that send abusive= or > >> other toxic emails? do we have a code of conduct? Searching the wik= i > >> or website finds nothing. The mission statement mentions nothing. > > > > I think that (most?) people have already figured out that messages fro= m > > unfamiliar senders on certain topics have to be ignored. It is much > > easier than any moderation, which would be ugly work (someone would ha= ve > > to read the often horrible stuff). > > > > I think that you only "associate" with trolls if you feed them. I hav= e > > recently made that mistake on this list once and will not repeat it. > > I disagree. Their emails pollute the list. Just as I wouldn't like to > go to a bar where there are noisy jerks in a corner, I don't like to > frequent an ML where there are. Bouncers exist in physical space, is it > so hard to electronically bounce jerks? Is it so hard to explicitly say > 'be a jerk and be thrown out'? > > Their presence makes the place unwelcoming. > - nathan - Nathan Sidwell I agree, but the question is - Who will decide?