From: Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com>
To: Soul Studios <matt@soulstudios.co.nz>
Cc: Mark Wielaard <mark@klomp.org>, GCC Development <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>,
Nathan Sidwell <nathan@acm.org>
Subject: Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2021 02:20:08 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <trinity-7f95b00a-909b-4015-a68b-8919b70ff465-1616977208316@3c-app-mailcom-bs15> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d7638647-6ab1-edc4-e600-1e31f1ba97cb@soulstudios.co.nz>
This is quite similar to James Madison and John Jay, two of the founding
father of the United States Bill of Rights, which enshrined guarantees of
personal freedoms and rights within the American Constitution.
Many companies rely on their founder to be the chief salesperson. This is
difficult as the company grows, but the founder is uniquely suited to convince
others about free software in this case.
Certainly not Nathan Sidwell, Deb Nicholson, or Neil McGovern. Or the others.
If people think that the Jeffrey Epstein problems are going to be resolved by
going after Stallman, they are highly misguided. Money and power often buy what
they shouldn't.
> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 at 11:21 AM
> From: "Soul Studios" <matt@soulstudios.co.nz>
> To: "Mark Wielaard" <mark@klomp.org>, "GCC Development" <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>
> Cc: "Nathan Sidwell" <nathan@acm.org>
> Subject: Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee
>
> > We are not talking about some single recent incident, but about
> > decades of problematic behavior. At the last face-to-face GNU Tools
> > Cauldron, everybody I talked to about it had some story about being
> > harassed by RMS, had witnessed such harassment or heard from or knew
> > someone who had been.
>
> I think I will leave this discussion up to those who have more
> familiarity with the guy than I do.
Have worked with Stallman and never experienced any stories that
are being perpetuated in discussions.
> There's no doubt that some of the
> stuff Stallman has written creeps me the hell out, and I think it was
> more the tone of the OP I objected to.
Yes, there are things that people can disagree with him about personal views.
Which crimes has he committed exactly? And under which jurisdiction? I have
to work with a lot of people that I could not particularly like on a personal
level. I cannot see how people expect that others stay out of politics because
they have some acrimony against them!
> Giving twitter as reference points doesn't really help matters, but it
> appears as though the problems are more offline than on.
>
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2021-03-26 20:02 Nathan Sidwell
2021-03-26 20:20 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-03-26 20:51 ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-03-26 21:18 ` Mark Wielaard
2021-03-26 21:34 ` David Malcolm
2021-03-26 21:09 ` Marek Polacek
2021-03-26 22:53 ` Hi-Angel
2021-03-26 23:50 ` Thomas Rodgers
2021-03-27 7:08 ` Didier Kryn
2021-03-27 21:44 ` Andrea Corallo
2021-03-29 17:28 ` Christophe de Dinechin
2021-03-27 13:38 ` Alexandre Oliva
2021-03-27 14:10 ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-03-27 15:45 ` Alexandre Oliva
2021-03-27 17:12 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-03-27 17:33 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-03-28 14:50 ` Alexandre Oliva
2021-03-28 17:25 ` Alexandre Oliva
2021-03-28 19:01 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-03-28 2:16 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-03-28 2:27 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-03-28 4:08 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-03-28 12:47 ` Mark Wielaard
2021-03-28 13:19 ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-03-28 14:33 ` JeanHeyd Meneide
2021-03-28 18:13 ` Mark Wielaard
2021-03-28 18:42 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-03-28 19:15 ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-03-30 0:20 ` Joseph Myers
2021-03-30 1:32 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-03-30 8:20 ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-03-30 2:08 ` Alexandre Oliva
2021-03-30 10:03 ` Mark Wielaard
2021-03-28 17:58 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-03-28 18:24 ` Alexandre Oliva
2021-03-28 23:21 ` Soul Studios
2021-03-29 0:20 ` Christopher Dimech [this message]
2021-03-29 12:18 ` Richard Kenner
2021-03-29 21:41 ` Soul Studios
2021-03-29 23:32 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-03-30 0:09 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-03-30 0:39 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-03-30 1:30 ` Thomas Rodgers
2021-03-30 1:56 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-03-30 9:14 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-03-30 11:56 ` Richard Kenner
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2021-03-30 12:33 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-03-30 9:28 ` Mark Wielaard
2021-03-30 12:37 ` Richard Kenner
2021-03-27 20:49 ` Martin Liška
2021-03-27 22:10 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-03-28 17:48 ` Jeff Law
2021-03-27 22:07 ` Martin Jambor
2021-03-28 15:26 ` Jeff Law
2021-03-29 10:11 ` Richard Biener
2021-03-30 8:25 ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-03-30 9:47 ` Didier Kryn
2021-03-30 9:52 ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-03-30 9:52 ` Didier Kryn
2021-03-30 10:12 ` Andrew Haley
2021-03-30 10:34 ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-03-30 11:12 ` Andrew Haley
2021-03-30 11:32 ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-03-30 10:50 ` Pankaj Jangid
2021-03-30 13:16 ` Giacomo Tesio
2021-03-30 13:30 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-03-30 16:50 ` Martin Jambor
2021-03-30 17:10 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-03-30 18:30 ` Gabriel Ravier
2021-03-30 18:52 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-03-30 16:56 ` Markus Böck
2021-03-30 17:07 ` JeanHeyd Meneide
2021-03-30 17:45 ` Joseph Myers
2021-03-30 18:13 ` Christopher Dimech
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2021-03-30 23:56 ` Andrew Sutton
2021-03-30 18:09 ` JeanHeyd Meneide
2021-03-30 21:28 ` Giacomo Tesio
2021-03-30 22:18 ` Joseph Myers
2021-03-31 8:53 ` Martin Jambor
2021-03-31 13:26 ` Giacomo Tesio
2021-03-31 11:34 ` Mark Wielaard
2021-03-31 12:28 ` Richard Biener
2021-03-31 12:55 ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-03-31 12:59 ` David Edelsohn
2021-03-31 13:21 ` Richard Biener
2021-04-06 10:34 ` Mark Wielaard
2021-03-31 13:46 ` Florian Weimer
2021-03-31 15:23 ` David Edelsohn
2021-03-31 15:43 ` Richard Biener
2021-03-31 15:43 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-03-31 12:46 ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-04-06 22:22 ` GCC association with the FSF Mark Wielaard
2021-04-06 22:28 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-07 14:04 ` David Malcolm
2021-04-07 17:17 ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-04-07 17:21 ` Jeff Law
2021-04-08 15:00 ` David Brown
2021-04-08 16:43 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-08 18:40 ` David Brown
2021-04-11 21:23 ` Alexandre Oliva
2021-04-11 22:41 ` Nathan Sidwell
2021-04-08 19:30 ` Gabriel Ravier
2021-04-09 11:48 ` Pankaj Jangid
2021-04-09 14:47 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-09 16:30 ` Gabriel Ravier
2021-04-10 12:58 ` Pankaj Jangid
2021-04-10 16:34 ` David Brown
2021-04-10 18:57 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-12 4:17 ` Pankaj Jangid
2021-04-08 17:22 ` Giacomo Tesio
2021-04-08 18:26 ` Thomas Rodgers
2021-04-08 20:26 ` David Brown
2021-04-11 13:39 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-04-11 14:03 ` David Brown
2021-04-11 14:42 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-11 14:21 ` Richard Kenner
2021-04-08 19:48 ` Mark Wielaard
2021-04-08 20:33 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-09 6:27 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-04-09 13:08 ` Paul Koning
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2021-04-12 10:27 ` Thomas Koenig
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2021-04-10 22:50 ` Gerald Pfeifer
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2021-04-12 1:03 ` David Edelsohn
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2021-04-12 10:24 ` Bronek Kozicki
2021-04-12 11:57 ` Bronek Kozicki
2021-04-12 15:25 ` Kalamatee
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2021-04-13 0:29 ` Daniel (Robin) Smith
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2021-04-09 23:12 ` Richard Kenner
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2021-04-10 12:37 ` David Brown
2021-04-10 15:28 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-09 13:00 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-04-07 18:00 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-03-31 13:28 ` Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee Giacomo Tesio
2021-03-31 13:49 ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-03-31 14:47 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-03-31 14:18 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-03-31 14:22 ` Paul Koning
2021-03-31 14:43 ` Joel Sherrill
2021-03-31 15:49 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-03-31 18:27 ` David Edelsohn
2021-04-01 17:07 ` Nathan Sidwell
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2021-04-01 20:33 ` Joseph Myers
2021-04-01 21:03 ` Christian Groessler
2021-04-01 21:53 ` Thomas Koenig
2021-04-01 22:00 ` Richard Kenner
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2021-04-06 11:18 ` Matthias Klose
2021-04-06 14:14 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-04-06 17:17 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2021-03-31 14:56 ` David Malcolm
2021-03-31 15:43 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-03-31 1:57 ` Alexandre Oliva
2021-03-31 2:51 ` JeanHeyd Meneide
2021-03-31 3:51 ` Alexandre Oliva
2021-03-31 7:14 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-03-31 8:15 ` JeanHeyd Meneide
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2021-03-30 16:20 ` Richard Kenner
2021-03-31 11:08 ` Franz Fehringer
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