From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [IPv6:2001:470:142:3::e]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DFE5238930CD for ; Sun, 11 Apr 2021 14:04:34 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org DFE5238930CD Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41750) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lVahV-0001e9-Uv for gcc@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2021 10:04:34 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:46173) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lVahM-0001hm-AM for gcc@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Apr 2021 10:04:33 -0400 X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [213.165.168.94] ([213.165.168.94]) by web-mail.gmx.net (3c-app-mailcom-bs01.server.lan [172.19.170.58]) (via HTTP); Sun, 11 Apr 2021 16:04:11 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: From: Christopher Dimech To: Richard Kenner Cc: david.brown@hesbynett.no, gcc@gnu.org, rodgert@appliantology.com Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2021 16:04:11 +0200 Importance: normal Sensitivity: Normal In-Reply-To: <20210411131105.ECFD433CAC@vlsi1.gnat.com> References: <94ca414af699bab851008f86f006db4bd8bf1929.camel@redhat.com> <20210408182128.GA19715@jocasta.intra> <5f532c131146b9c7549f03eac7a9da3a29db1a2e.camel@redhat.com> <20210409063749.GA8596@jocasta.intra> <04fa3173-9809-b905-8fa3-f6554b8ae7d7@hesbynett.no> <06eb8287-e6bb-270f-e5a5-730c10bb31ef@hesbynett.no> <5a4a24bf9e3cc2299793c53516f6a20c@appliantology.com> <20210410201052.841C433CAC@vlsi1.gnat.com> <20210411131105.ECFD433CAC@vlsi1.gnat.com> X-UI-Message-Type: mail X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:Fq6+73jULheomQdLlWf3NcCRilrujICldN5rsWsDUg/hlS9tQGXSBBAUc0/rpiUKqbWas qSJo57oi0lfQsphVVS9GkBSglJBGpJGGABTNQRIhw/D+WPU66IPSNcSa3SzcOeJzyJZxjoMo15SA 5GZVf2rQQAnbpsPeOAcB1mnAomUBkhZqA6LAte0XJN16Hg6PM16xkyxNmJPHFw3e51HbjA/x03RJ lGo0fL7sKdrOpV024E6nkaSHC3N+0VQl8RstpBJhCOivBXJDsss9NzXjVvw9BVvLFCjKzOuzJflc ow= X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:LScCsDwJlew=:NeTGoc2tf1Bhf02rpRmXPt fkqyduiln64RKMt4sRlHVutbWLeG8hhlHTJ5kNUeKpTgOpW4RvpQofGbfNqeX3wQmQ3Req49F GW92AgYLdodghp/wiQWF/enPGjEsEp6JMaLpgsSBFijg9y3CGfHWkIhbyWfpOvAce5Y6fwlWn SW0UUvYlAekhhaUk8L90eZX3m63cdHXok3TW4qvjN7UIM+fCmgCqy8gcmTji51bcdeLkEpZmy yPeJYrCoyR7nl/SHatEUQlCUiUutKgHIVlO7+h15yQADXdkage2unFDCUQcWcHqXpOOKuKvhg B1O10bAR/EGJq0f/vIKfaNxhKj59QrwTywmDQpjRO7355PsKmpNqqJk6FiCGYYM+X3T5rrDPs OpSht4lYa/T3iDBiExqK5qLYDvZThiJGkIEpogpLVfW0y9sAf/8o6a3nXnPPHmtwRFPu2yT15 05vNAxl046DECbgipAun9r6BLz4h2FtcnrLvgyRMtSp/NxDNHa0mjAXPC04gbx7d+bLqwGLdp iTfr+AD4jsV4zS3zHgaUCClZtW6FwpBtdS0gVrPIo+jMM6DEsDZyWJRs9yV0lcOoI8MIJBgVh nfx33khUdd8Dy7cu6/4ZABvwJWzffvfO3CVo5i3bmjZlvjWVMYCBoYB3bTkmDJOSwDFsBZM3Q C/hQtbaeYE8OzljROKPleqhJMiCeLM1eCje8wgTuFh4ofGuFplPc9ilNWKBcpXcl/gMGHq/7P ycet1TSPW+Y4LtBQ8PZUIv7nEIAfWFvhQmmFL5H7U4h/yJhGo6LtYJU90utcoWzdSVs3JxMpF laNAMswqh5+a1iVyUWuY/hNfBEeuyBvW5UUrAr96C4hT2MTF5kkX3YJAUXO4xqBDouLWmmtbC iOxlKiAOvu/Y9MnylrFcK/cvr7PgQ8I3GHVCaiW3SGmWWMGcqEyC5n39m6DHoj Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.17.21; envelope-from=dimech@gmx.com; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN, FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS, TXREP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: gcc@gcc.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Gcc mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2021 14:04:40 -0000 > Sent: Monday, April 12, 2021 at 1:11 AM > From: "Richard Kenner" > To: dimech@gmx.com > Cc: david.brown@hesbynett.no, gcc@gnu.org, rodgert@appliantology.com > Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF > > > > > So, that's a solid 'no' on the likelihood of you contributing > > > > anything of value to the discussion of GCC governance then? > > > > > > I really think that most of the people replying on this thread have = a > > > much more encompassing view of "GCC governance" than actually exists= . > > > > If the community makes it too hard by demanding too much (which > > seems to me that it is bending towards the merely bureaucratic), > > people would be discouraged to serve on it. > > I'm sorry, what is it that you think that the "community" (whatever > that is) is demanding too much of? Some have been saying that leaders are representatives of the whole free software users, and if mistakes happen, they would tarnish everybody. And then a situation similar to this one starts all over again. I would say that it is the organisers of events that have such responsibil= ity.