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From: "Manuel López-Ibáñez" <lopezibanez@gmail.com>
To: Basile Starynkevitch <basile@starynkevitch.net>
Cc: gcc Mailing List <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Why not contribute? (to GCC)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 21:45:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <u2w6c33472e1004231435r42be9783ode6ab1167657151b@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BD20EDF.2050102@starynkevitch.net>

On 23 April 2010 23:19, Basile Starynkevitch <basile@starynkevitch.net> wrote:
>
> I do know that the legal system of GCC is nearly impossible to change (we
> all remember how getting the runtime license of GCC compatible with plugins
> took so long) but I believe it is one of the weaknesses of GCC. My feeling
> is that the legalese inside GCC have been defined in a different time and
> world than today!

The legal status is impossible to change and we do not want to change
it. The legal procedures to satisfy that status are a different matter
altogether and we should evolve and improve them. Mixing the two
concepts leads to confusion.

As for the legal status. For me, the GPL is one of the reasons I chose
to contribute to GCC. I wouldn't like to see Apple to take my work,
add some shiny stuff and start distributing it as a closed-source
bonus to its customers. But if the GPL is stopping you from
contributing, then go now because we cannot and we do not want to
change this. But the procedure, I don't see any reason why it could
not improve.

> Any even since I did send patches to GCC since several years, I am still
> scared even now when sending one.

Scared about what? Legal implications? Please clarify.

Cheers,

Manuel.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-23 21:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 231+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-23 18:56 Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-23 19:04 ` Paolo Carlini
2010-04-23 19:24   ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-23 19:58     ` Michael Witten
2010-04-23 20:43       ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-23 21:49         ` Michael Witten
2010-04-23 22:18           ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-23 23:20             ` Michael Witten
2010-04-25 15:34     ` Denys Vlasenko
2010-04-25 16:34       ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26  5:06         ` Olivier Galibert
2010-04-26  5:16           ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26 11:41             ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-04-27  2:03               ` Russ Allbery
2010-04-27  2:58                 ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-27 14:57                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-04-23 19:34 ` Дмитрий Дьяченко
2010-04-23 19:45   ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-23 19:53     ` Joel Sherrill
2010-04-24 16:00       ` Дмитрий Дьяченко
2010-04-24 16:02         ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-24 16:45           ` Joel Sherrill
2010-04-24 18:07         ` Laurent GUERBY
2010-04-23 19:40 ` David Daney
2010-04-25 19:26   ` Mark Mielke
2010-04-23 19:48 ` Marc Glisse
2010-04-23 20:06   ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-23 21:36   ` Basile Starynkevitch
2010-04-23 21:45     ` Manuel López-Ibáñez [this message]
2010-04-24  0:05       ` Basile Starynkevitch
2010-04-24  0:37         ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2010-04-24  0:47           ` Basile Starynkevitch
2010-04-24  0:48         ` Ian Lance Taylor
2010-04-24  1:37           ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-25 20:26           ` Mark Mielke
2010-04-25 21:46             ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-25 22:16               ` Mark Mielke
2010-04-25 22:48                 ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26  0:28                   ` Mark Mielke
2010-04-26  0:30                     ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26  0:37                     ` Jack Howarth
2010-04-26  1:45                       ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26  2:06                       ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-26  2:32                     ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-26  2:55                       ` Michael Witten
2010-04-26  3:02                         ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26  3:08                         ` Dave Korn
2010-04-26  3:23                     ` Dave Korn
2010-04-26  3:25                       ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26  3:25                         ` Dave Korn
2010-04-26  9:32                           ` Mark Mielke
2010-04-26 11:48                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-04-27  4:02                               ` Mark Mielke
2010-04-27  7:57                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-04-26 12:20                             ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26 12:36                               ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-26 15:11                               ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-27  3:21                                 ` Mark Mielke
2010-04-27  3:55                                   ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26  3:32                       ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26  4:02                         ` Dave Korn
2010-04-26  4:13                           ` Russ Allbery
2010-04-26  4:32                             ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26  4:36                               ` Dave Korn
2010-04-26  4:22                           ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26  9:23                       ` Mark Mielke
2010-04-24  1:39         ` Dave Korn
2010-04-23 22:35     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-25 19:37       ` Mark Mielke
2010-04-25 21:35         ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26  4:32         ` Ian Lance Taylor
2010-04-26  4:54           ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26  9:41           ` Mark Mielke
2010-04-26 17:14             ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2010-04-26 17:19             ` Ian Lance Taylor
2010-04-26 15:11         ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-23 22:18   ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-23 22:53     ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-24  0:04       ` Joe Buck
2010-04-24  0:21         ` Basile Starynkevitch
2010-04-24  1:00           ` Joe Buck
2010-04-24  0:08       ` Basile Starynkevitch
2010-04-24  0:35         ` Joe Buck
2010-04-24  0:41           ` Basile Starynkevitch
2010-04-24  1:32             ` Ian Lance Taylor
2010-04-24  1:39               ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-24  2:13                 ` Dave Korn
2010-04-24  5:14                 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2010-04-24  6:02                   ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-24  1:35             ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-25 19:54             ` Mark Mielke
2010-04-25 21:42               ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-24 10:26         ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-24 10:39           ` Eric Botcazou
2010-04-24 13:02           ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-25  4:20         ` Chris Lattner
2010-04-25  8:40       ` Chris Lattner
2010-04-25 10:56         ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-25 14:59           ` Chris Lattner
2010-04-25 15:04             ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-25 15:20               ` Chris Lattner
2010-04-25 15:21                 ` H.J. Lu
2010-04-25 21:37                   ` Mark Mielke
2010-04-25 16:30                 ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-25 16:54                   ` Michael Witten
2010-04-25 17:04                     ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-25 17:09                       ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-25 17:05                     ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-25 17:05                     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-25 17:08                     ` Steven Bosscher
2010-04-26  9:07                       ` Andrew Haley
2010-04-25 19:19                   ` Chris Lattner
2010-04-25 21:24                     ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26  5:14                       ` Chris Lattner
2010-04-26  7:17                         ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26 11:59                         ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-26 15:12                     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-26 16:59                       ` Chris Lattner
2010-04-26 17:26                         ` Olivier Galibert
2010-04-26 18:04                         ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-27  2:16                           ` Mark Mielke
2010-04-27  3:02                             ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-27 20:43                             ` Michael Witten
2010-04-27  5:10                           ` Olivier Galibert
2010-04-27 12:27                             ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26 19:28                         ` Ian Lance Taylor
2010-04-26 20:53                           ` Chris Lattner
2010-04-26 21:06                             ` Ian Lance Taylor
2010-04-26 21:42                               ` Chris Lattner
2010-04-26 22:18                               ` Toon Moene
2010-04-27  2:56                           ` Mark Mielke
2010-04-27  3:04                             ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-27  4:54                             ` Ian Lance Taylor
2010-04-25 17:16                 ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-25 17:35                   ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-25 17:58                     ` Steven Bosscher
2010-04-25 21:17                       ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-25 16:26             ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-25 18:04             ` Ian Lance Taylor
2010-04-25 12:43         ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-23 20:03 ` HyperQuantum
2010-04-23 20:14   ` HyperQuantum
2010-04-23 20:19     ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-23 20:24     ` Paweł Sikora
2010-04-23 20:42       ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-23 20:51         ` Michael Witten
2010-04-23 21:05           ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-23 22:01             ` Michael Witten
2010-04-24  9:19               ` Jonathan Wakely
2010-04-24 10:51         ` Paweł Sikora
2010-04-24 11:10           ` Andi Hellmund
2010-04-24 12:12             ` Joseph S. Myers
2010-04-24 13:20               ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-24 13:53           ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-24 14:14             ` Toon Moene
2010-04-24  2:09     ` Tim Prince
2010-04-24  5:08       ` Dave Korn
2010-04-23 20:32   ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-23 20:22 ` Michael Witten
2010-04-23 20:59 ` Florian Weimer
2010-04-23 22:06 ` Russ Allbery
2010-04-24  8:53 ` Michael Veksler
2010-04-24 19:43 ` Thomas Neumann
2010-04-24 20:03   ` Joel Sherrill
2010-04-24 20:28     ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-24 20:37       ` Steven Bosscher
2010-04-24 20:37         ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-24 20:43           ` Richard Guenther
2010-04-24 20:39         ` Richard Guenther
2010-04-24 20:45           ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-24 21:40           ` Andi Hellmund
2010-04-24 22:19             ` Joel Sherrill
2010-04-25 12:54               ` Eric Botcazou
2010-04-25 13:01                 ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-25 13:10                   ` Steven Bosscher
2010-04-25 14:55                     ` Ralf Wildenhues
2010-04-25 17:36                       ` Ian Lance Taylor
2010-04-25 20:41                 ` Richard Guenther
2010-04-24 20:46   ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-05-04  7:13   ` Theodore Papadopoulo
2010-05-04 20:51     ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-24 21:03 ` Martin Guy
2010-04-24 21:27   ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-24 12:35 Ross Ridge
2010-04-24 12:56 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-24 13:29   ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-24 14:23     ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-24 19:48     ` Florian Weimer
2010-04-24 20:23       ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-25 15:44   ` Jonathan Corbet
2010-04-25 15:54     ` Steven Bosscher
2010-04-25 16:00       ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-25 16:00       ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-25 16:48         ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-25 16:18     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-26 16:50       ` Jonathan Corbet
2010-04-26 16:54         ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-26 17:03           ` Jonathan Corbet
2010-04-26 19:53             ` Ian Lance Taylor
2010-04-26 20:03               ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-26 20:04                 ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-27 19:52                   ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-27 19:56                     ` Ian Lance Taylor
2010-04-27 21:05                       ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-27 21:20                         ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-27 21:33                           ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-27 21:40                             ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-27 22:33                               ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-27 22:33                             ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-27 22:53                               ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-29  8:50                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-04-26 17:04         ` Steven Bosscher
2010-04-26 17:15           ` Steven Bosscher
2010-04-26 18:00           ` Olivier Galibert
2010-04-25 16:35     ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-24 14:21 ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-24 14:31   ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2010-04-24 14:34     ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-24 14:39   ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-24 14:40     ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-24 14:45       ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-24 19:36 ` Leif Ekblad
2010-04-24 19:47   ` Joel Sherrill
2010-04-25 11:07     ` Leif Ekblad
2010-04-25 11:25       ` Ralf Wildenhues
2010-04-24 12:51 Matthew J Fletcher
2010-04-26  9:46 Ross Ridge
2010-04-26 12:32 ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26 15:11   ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-26 15:11 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-26 16:09 Ross Ridge

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