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From: Andreas Jaeger <aj@suse.de>
To: Mark Mitchell <mark@codesourcery.com>
Cc: "gcc@gcc.gnu.org" <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: C++ binary compatibility between GCC 3.1 and GCC 3.2?
Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2002 14:22:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <u88z4qvsts.fsf@gromit.moeb> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18910000.1025898677@gandalf.codesourcery.com> (Mark Mitchell's message of "Fri, 05 Jul 2002 12:51:17 -0700")

Mark Mitchell <mark@codesourcery.com> writes:

>> What does this mean for binary compatibility between GCC 3.1 and GCC
>> 3.2?  With the introduction of GCC 3 and its ABI, the expectation by
>> users is that we won't have binary incompatible changes.  Unfortunatly
>> the - AFAIK valid - bug reports show that the ABI implemention was
>> buggy and therefore needed to change.
>
> Yes, the implementation had some bugs.  It was also the case that the
> ABI specification had some bugs/omissions/unclarities.  (The most recent
> substantive change to the ABI specification occurred about a week ago.)
>
> There are getting to be fewer and fewer bugs and the rate of change to
> the ABI is approaching zero, but I, like you, am disappointed that we're
> still breaking the C++ ABI between major releases of the compiler.
>
> In any case, GCC 3.1 and GCC 3.2 will not be 100% binary compatible
> with respect to the C++ ABI.

How severe is this?  Will people encounter this in every day code or
is only in some esoteric situations?

> I can't say what that might mean as a distributor.

Putting on my distributor hat - and answering without much thinking
about all the implications - it would be better to have 3.1.1 and 3.2
compatible (with the cost of 3.1 and 3.1.1 not compatible to each
other).  Alternativly we could rename GCC 3.1.1 to GCC 3.2.1 and
release that in a few weeks time (this would imply to rename mainline
to GCC 3.3 prerelease and have GCC 3.3 release in autumn).

As you see, I haven't made my up mind and do not know what the best
solution is here.

Andreas
-- 
 Andreas Jaeger
  SuSE Labs aj@suse.de
   private aj@arthur.inka.de
    http://www.suse.de/~aj

  reply	other threads:[~2002-07-05 20:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-07-04  9:55 Andreas Jaeger
2002-07-04 10:23 ` H. J. Lu
2002-07-05 14:17 ` Mark Mitchell
2002-07-05 14:22   ` Andreas Jaeger [this message]
2002-07-05 14:28     ` Mark Mitchell
2002-07-05 14:53       ` David O'Brien
2002-07-05 15:08         ` Mark Mitchell
2002-07-06  5:34           ` Andreas Jaeger
2002-07-06  6:40             ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2002-07-06  6:40               ` Jakub Jelinek
2002-07-06  7:20                 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2002-07-06  7:53                   ` Andreas Jaeger
2002-07-06  8:54                     ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2002-07-06 11:04                     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-07-06  7:42                 ` Andreas Jaeger
2002-07-06 11:08                   ` Jeff Law
2002-07-06 11:10                     ` Gwenole Beauchesne
2002-07-06  6:19         ` Daniel Egger
2002-07-05 14:46   ` David O'Brien
2002-07-05 15:02     ` H. J. Lu
2002-07-05 15:12       ` David O'Brien
2002-07-05 15:20         ` H. J. Lu
2002-07-05 16:11           ` Stan Shebs
2002-07-05 16:12             ` David Edelsohn
2002-07-05 16:35               ` Stan Shebs
2002-07-05 22:18               ` Geoff Keating
2002-07-07 23:14               ` Mark Mitchell
2002-07-05 15:02     ` Mark Mitchell
2002-07-06  6:28       ` Scott Robert Ladd
2002-07-06  4:56     ` Andreas Jaeger
2002-07-06  6:44       ` Gerald Pfeifer
2002-07-06  7:35         ` Andreas Jaeger
2002-07-06 11:44         ` David O'Brien
2002-07-05 22:35 ` David Edelsohn
2002-07-06  5:40 ` Joseph S. Myers
2002-07-06  6:40   ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2002-07-06  7:49     ` Andreas Jaeger
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-07-10  4:24 Iain McClatchie
2002-07-08 10:09 Ben Woodhead
2002-07-08  9:02 Bernard Dautrevaux
2002-07-08 13:03 ` Bernard Dautrevaux
2002-07-10  7:32 ` Bernard Dautrevaux
2002-07-12  3:09 ` Bernard Dautrevaux
2002-07-12 13:50 ` Bernard Dautrevaux
2002-07-08  3:42 Bernard Dautrevaux
2002-07-08  4:07 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2002-07-08  6:28 ` Joern Rennecke
2002-07-08 13:05 ` Bernard Dautrevaux
2002-07-10  7:33 ` Bernard Dautrevaux
2002-07-12  4:27 ` Bernard Dautrevaux
2002-07-12 13:53 ` Bernard Dautrevaux
2002-07-06 15:47 Joern Rennecke
2002-07-06 16:09 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2002-07-07  8:03   ` Joern Rennecke
     [not found] <3900A36C.18989ED4@apple.com>
2000-04-21 17:17 ` [patch] beginnings of the macro rewrite Horst von Brand
2000-04-22 10:33   ` Zack Weinberg
2000-04-22 20:13     ` Marc Espie
2000-04-22 20:20     ` Neil Booth
2000-04-24  8:57     ` Michael Meissner
2000-04-24 17:54       ` Russ Allbery
2000-04-27 15:54     ` Philipp Thomas
2000-04-27 17:32       ` Joe Buck
2000-04-24 23:38   ` Martin Kahlert

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