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From: "Manuel López-Ibáñez" <lopezibanez@gmail.com>
To: gcc Mailing List <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Why not contribute? (to GCC)
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 20:06:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <v2l6c33472e1004231302j3dbb25d5u471de6d42ab30fb@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1004232127350.6901@laptop-mg.saclay.inria.fr>

On 23 April 2010 21:45, Marc Glisse <marc.glisse@inria.fr> wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Apr 2010, Manuel López-Ibáñez wrote:
>
>> This seems to be the question running around the blogosphere for
>> several projects. And I would like to ask all people that read this
>> list but hardly say or do anything.
>>
>> What reasons keep you from contributing to GCC?
>
> Not sure we should spam this list even more with such non-technical
> discussions, but since you are asking:

I think this is an important question for GCC's future, and this is
the main gcc list. If we cannot discuss this here, then where? Please,
keep sending your answers.

> legal reasons. The default disclaimer is nonsense, it is hard to find an
> employer willing to sign a sensible disclaimer, and even when you have a
> nice employer it can still take months (years?) to get things through the
> FSF.

OK. the default disclaimer is totally nonsense. But in my previous
university, I drafted the disclaimer together with the legal
department, and the FSF just accepted it. The FSF took a few months
yes, but I also took me a few months to get to the point of committing
my first patch, so no big deal. Nowadays, there are SVN and GIT where
you can keep your patches until you get the OK. Hey, you can even get
patches approved without the disclaimer yet!  If you are in a hurry,
you can always insist politely. They will either say they are busy but
aware of it or they will say: Oh, I forgot to send it, it is done!

> Note that I am not proposing any change. Assignment to the FSF has
> drawbacks, but it also has some advantages. And if things are slow there, I
> am sure they wouldn't mind extra money to hire more people.

In any case, I think GCC is an important project for the FSF and if it
is hurting our future, we should ask for some improvements on this
area, and perhaps someone would decide to act. Steering committee?

Anyway, you do not need a disclaimer for contributing documentation,
helping with bugs, analysing where and why GCC is slow and even
programming helper tools. You can even suggest changes that someone
else may implement!

Cheers,

Manuel.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-23 20:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 231+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-23 18:56 Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-23 19:04 ` Paolo Carlini
2010-04-23 19:24   ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-23 19:58     ` Michael Witten
2010-04-23 20:43       ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-23 21:49         ` Michael Witten
2010-04-23 22:18           ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-23 23:20             ` Michael Witten
2010-04-25 15:34     ` Denys Vlasenko
2010-04-25 16:34       ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26  5:06         ` Olivier Galibert
2010-04-26  5:16           ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26 11:41             ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-04-27  2:03               ` Russ Allbery
2010-04-27  2:58                 ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-27 14:57                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-04-23 19:34 ` Дмитрий Дьяченко
2010-04-23 19:45   ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-23 19:53     ` Joel Sherrill
2010-04-24 16:00       ` Дмитрий Дьяченко
2010-04-24 16:02         ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-24 16:45           ` Joel Sherrill
2010-04-24 18:07         ` Laurent GUERBY
2010-04-23 19:40 ` David Daney
2010-04-25 19:26   ` Mark Mielke
2010-04-23 19:48 ` Marc Glisse
2010-04-23 20:06   ` Manuel López-Ibáñez [this message]
2010-04-23 21:36   ` Basile Starynkevitch
2010-04-23 21:45     ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-24  0:05       ` Basile Starynkevitch
2010-04-24  0:37         ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2010-04-24  0:47           ` Basile Starynkevitch
2010-04-24  0:48         ` Ian Lance Taylor
2010-04-24  1:37           ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-25 20:26           ` Mark Mielke
2010-04-25 21:46             ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-25 22:16               ` Mark Mielke
2010-04-25 22:48                 ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26  0:28                   ` Mark Mielke
2010-04-26  0:30                     ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26  0:37                     ` Jack Howarth
2010-04-26  1:45                       ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26  2:06                       ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-26  2:32                     ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-26  2:55                       ` Michael Witten
2010-04-26  3:02                         ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26  3:08                         ` Dave Korn
2010-04-26  3:23                     ` Dave Korn
2010-04-26  3:25                       ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26  3:25                         ` Dave Korn
2010-04-26  9:32                           ` Mark Mielke
2010-04-26 11:48                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-04-27  4:02                               ` Mark Mielke
2010-04-27  7:57                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-04-26 12:20                             ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26 12:36                               ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-26 15:11                               ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-27  3:21                                 ` Mark Mielke
2010-04-27  3:55                                   ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26  3:32                       ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26  4:02                         ` Dave Korn
2010-04-26  4:13                           ` Russ Allbery
2010-04-26  4:32                             ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26  4:36                               ` Dave Korn
2010-04-26  4:22                           ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26  9:23                       ` Mark Mielke
2010-04-24  1:39         ` Dave Korn
2010-04-23 22:35     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-25 19:37       ` Mark Mielke
2010-04-25 21:35         ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26  4:32         ` Ian Lance Taylor
2010-04-26  4:54           ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26  9:41           ` Mark Mielke
2010-04-26 17:14             ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2010-04-26 17:19             ` Ian Lance Taylor
2010-04-26 15:11         ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-23 22:18   ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-23 22:53     ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-24  0:04       ` Joe Buck
2010-04-24  0:21         ` Basile Starynkevitch
2010-04-24  1:00           ` Joe Buck
2010-04-24  0:08       ` Basile Starynkevitch
2010-04-24  0:35         ` Joe Buck
2010-04-24  0:41           ` Basile Starynkevitch
2010-04-24  1:32             ` Ian Lance Taylor
2010-04-24  1:39               ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-24  2:13                 ` Dave Korn
2010-04-24  5:14                 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2010-04-24  6:02                   ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-24  1:35             ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-25 19:54             ` Mark Mielke
2010-04-25 21:42               ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-24 10:26         ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-24 10:39           ` Eric Botcazou
2010-04-24 13:02           ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-25  4:20         ` Chris Lattner
2010-04-25  8:40       ` Chris Lattner
2010-04-25 10:56         ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-25 14:59           ` Chris Lattner
2010-04-25 15:04             ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-25 15:20               ` Chris Lattner
2010-04-25 15:21                 ` H.J. Lu
2010-04-25 21:37                   ` Mark Mielke
2010-04-25 16:30                 ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-25 16:54                   ` Michael Witten
2010-04-25 17:04                     ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-25 17:09                       ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-25 17:05                     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-25 17:05                     ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-25 17:08                     ` Steven Bosscher
2010-04-26  9:07                       ` Andrew Haley
2010-04-25 19:19                   ` Chris Lattner
2010-04-25 21:24                     ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26  5:14                       ` Chris Lattner
2010-04-26  7:17                         ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26 11:59                         ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-26 15:12                     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-26 16:59                       ` Chris Lattner
2010-04-26 17:26                         ` Olivier Galibert
2010-04-26 18:04                         ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-27  2:16                           ` Mark Mielke
2010-04-27  3:02                             ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-27 20:43                             ` Michael Witten
2010-04-27  5:10                           ` Olivier Galibert
2010-04-27 12:27                             ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26 19:28                         ` Ian Lance Taylor
2010-04-26 20:53                           ` Chris Lattner
2010-04-26 21:06                             ` Ian Lance Taylor
2010-04-26 21:42                               ` Chris Lattner
2010-04-26 22:18                               ` Toon Moene
2010-04-27  2:56                           ` Mark Mielke
2010-04-27  3:04                             ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-27  4:54                             ` Ian Lance Taylor
2010-04-25 17:16                 ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-25 17:35                   ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-25 17:58                     ` Steven Bosscher
2010-04-25 21:17                       ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-25 16:26             ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-25 18:04             ` Ian Lance Taylor
2010-04-25 12:43         ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-23 20:03 ` HyperQuantum
2010-04-23 20:14   ` HyperQuantum
2010-04-23 20:19     ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-23 20:24     ` Paweł Sikora
2010-04-23 20:42       ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-23 20:51         ` Michael Witten
2010-04-23 21:05           ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-23 22:01             ` Michael Witten
2010-04-24  9:19               ` Jonathan Wakely
2010-04-24 10:51         ` Paweł Sikora
2010-04-24 11:10           ` Andi Hellmund
2010-04-24 12:12             ` Joseph S. Myers
2010-04-24 13:20               ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-24 13:53           ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-24 14:14             ` Toon Moene
2010-04-24  2:09     ` Tim Prince
2010-04-24  5:08       ` Dave Korn
2010-04-23 20:32   ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-23 20:22 ` Michael Witten
2010-04-23 20:59 ` Florian Weimer
2010-04-23 22:06 ` Russ Allbery
2010-04-24  8:53 ` Michael Veksler
2010-04-24 19:43 ` Thomas Neumann
2010-04-24 20:03   ` Joel Sherrill
2010-04-24 20:28     ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-24 20:37       ` Steven Bosscher
2010-04-24 20:37         ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-24 20:43           ` Richard Guenther
2010-04-24 20:39         ` Richard Guenther
2010-04-24 20:45           ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-24 21:40           ` Andi Hellmund
2010-04-24 22:19             ` Joel Sherrill
2010-04-25 12:54               ` Eric Botcazou
2010-04-25 13:01                 ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-25 13:10                   ` Steven Bosscher
2010-04-25 14:55                     ` Ralf Wildenhues
2010-04-25 17:36                       ` Ian Lance Taylor
2010-04-25 20:41                 ` Richard Guenther
2010-04-24 20:46   ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-05-04  7:13   ` Theodore Papadopoulo
2010-05-04 20:51     ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-24 21:03 ` Martin Guy
2010-04-24 21:27   ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-24 12:35 Ross Ridge
2010-04-24 12:56 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-24 13:29   ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-24 14:23     ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-24 19:48     ` Florian Weimer
2010-04-24 20:23       ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-25 15:44   ` Jonathan Corbet
2010-04-25 15:54     ` Steven Bosscher
2010-04-25 16:00       ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-25 16:48         ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-25 16:00       ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-25 16:18     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-26 16:50       ` Jonathan Corbet
2010-04-26 16:54         ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-26 17:03           ` Jonathan Corbet
2010-04-26 19:53             ` Ian Lance Taylor
2010-04-26 20:03               ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-26 20:04                 ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-27 19:52                   ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-27 19:56                     ` Ian Lance Taylor
2010-04-27 21:05                       ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-27 21:20                         ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-27 21:33                           ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-27 21:40                             ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-27 22:33                               ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-27 22:33                             ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-27 22:53                               ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-29  8:50                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-04-26 17:04         ` Steven Bosscher
2010-04-26 17:15           ` Steven Bosscher
2010-04-26 18:00           ` Olivier Galibert
2010-04-25 16:35     ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-24 14:21 ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-24 14:31   ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2010-04-24 14:34     ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-24 14:39   ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-24 14:40     ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-24 14:45       ` Manuel López-Ibáñez
2010-04-24 19:36 ` Leif Ekblad
2010-04-24 19:47   ` Joel Sherrill
2010-04-25 11:07     ` Leif Ekblad
2010-04-25 11:25       ` Ralf Wildenhues
2010-04-24 12:51 Matthew J Fletcher
2010-04-26  9:46 Ross Ridge
2010-04-26 12:32 ` Richard Kenner
2010-04-26 15:11   ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-26 15:11 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2010-04-26 16:09 Ross Ridge

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