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From: Jason Merrill <jason@redhat.com>
To: Mark Mitchell <mark@codesourcery.com>
Cc: Richard Henderson <rth@redhat.com>, Per Bothner <per@bothner.com>,
	Diego Novillo <dnovillo@redhat.com>,
	"gcc@gcc.gnu.org" <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>,
	Jason Merrill <jason@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Language-independent functions-as-trees representation
Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 20:30:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <wvlznwkhh9u.fsf@prospero.cambridge.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <21910000.1027285094@warlock.codesourcery.com> (Mark Mitchell's message of "Sun, 21 Jul 2002 13:58:14 -0700")

>>>>> "Mark" == Mark Mitchell <mark@codesourcery.com> writes:

> My disagreement with Per is closer to the front end; I would really
> like the internal representation produced from C++ semantic analysis
> to look like C++ -- with various implicit things made explict (like
> default arguments, choice of overloaded function, choice of template
> specialization, action to take on cleanup of object, etc.)

I don't have a problem with this, except that it makes lowering more
complicated.

> In SIMPLE, one place where I would like the statement/expression to come
> in to play is the following:

>   If two expressions are "the same", i.e., both are "x + y", then they
>   are actually the same pointer.

Why?  We don't currently share expressions in RTL; why would we want to do
so in SIMPLE?

The current simplification code explicitly unshares all the trees to avoid
SAVE_EXPR-like problems with shared expressions.  For example, this code
from cppexpr.c:

  prio = optab[op].prio - ((optab[op].flags & LEFT_ASSOC) != 0);

gets folded to:

  prio = ((int)optab[(unsigned int)op].flags & 2) != 0
    ? (unsigned int)((int)optab[(unsigned int)op].prio - 1) 
    : (unsigned int)(int)optab[(unsigned int)op].prio;

where the "optab[op].prio" is shared.  If we don't unshare before
simplifying, we get something like (only partially simplified):

 T.1 = ((int)optab[(unsigned int)op].flags & 2);
 if (T.1 != 0)
   {
     T.2 = optab[(unsigned int)op].prio;
     prio = (unsigned int)((int)T.2 - 1);
   }
 else
   {
     prio = (unsigned int)(int)T.2;
   }

Oops.

> In other words, statements are the control flow glue that holds
> computations together.  The computations don't care about where they
> are in the control flow.  This makes some optimizations easier and
> more efficient, and it's a very appealing view of the world.

Sorry, I don't follow.  Most computations care very much about where they
are in the control flow; if I move computations about arbitrarily, their
values will tend to change.  The value of "x + y" is different before and
after I increment x.  It's the job of CSE to recognize when we can share
values between multiple instances of an expression.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2002-07-21 22:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-07-20 19:47 Jason Merrill
2002-07-20 13:58 ` Per Bothner
2002-07-21 22:04   ` Jason Merrill
2002-07-20 22:17 ` Steven Bosscher
2002-07-21  6:20   ` Richard Henderson
2002-07-21  9:43     ` Steven Bosscher
2002-07-21 14:31       ` Richard Henderson
2002-07-21 15:07         ` Daniel Berlin
2002-07-21 15:15         ` Steven Bosscher
2002-07-21  0:09 ` Neil Booth
2002-07-21  0:41   ` Richard Henderson
2002-07-21  0:13 ` Richard Henderson
2002-07-21  7:06 ` Andreas Jaeger
2002-07-21 11:09   ` Pop Sébastian
2002-07-21 11:44     ` Andreas Jaeger
2002-07-21 23:20       ` Phil Edwards
2002-07-22  2:24         ` Daniel Berlin
2002-07-22  6:23           ` Phil Edwards
2002-07-22  7:10       ` where is tree dump utility Sathiskanna
2002-07-22 13:25         ` Diego Novillo
2002-07-21 17:03 ` Language-independent functions-as-trees representation Mark Mitchell
2002-07-21 20:30   ` Jason Merrill [this message]
2002-07-21 22:44     ` Mark Mitchell
2002-07-21 23:06       ` Jason Merrill
2002-07-21 23:53         ` Mark Mitchell
2002-07-22  0:13           ` Jason Merrill
2002-07-22  3:17             ` Daniel Berlin
2002-07-22  5:11     ` Daniel Berlin
2002-07-22  7:18       ` Jason Merrill
2002-07-22 13:11         ` Daniel Berlin
2002-07-23 18:20           ` Jason Merrill
2002-07-27 14:10             ` Pop Sébastian
2002-07-30  9:02               ` Jason Merrill
2002-07-22 21:09   ` Diego Novillo
2002-07-22  2:42 ` where is the data Sathiskanna
2002-07-22 19:04 ` Language-independent functions-as-trees representation Diego Novillo
2002-07-23 10:21   ` Fergus Henderson
2002-07-23 11:26     ` Diego Novillo
2002-07-23 11:34       ` Toon Moene
2002-07-23 12:01         ` Diego Novillo
2002-07-23 17:48           ` Pop Sébastian
2002-07-26 15:56             ` Jason Merrill
2002-07-23 17:48   ` Jason Merrill
2002-07-23 18:29     ` Andrew Haley
2002-07-23 19:07     ` Richard Henderson
2002-07-23 23:40       ` Jason Merrill
2002-07-24  3:01         ` Richard Henderson
2002-07-24 11:34           ` Jason Merrill
2002-07-23 21:57     ` Fergus Henderson
2002-07-24  0:22       ` Jason Merrill
2002-08-23  5:41 ` Jason Merrill
2002-08-23  6:00   ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2002-08-23  7:41     ` Jason Merrill
2002-08-23  8:22   ` Pop Sébastian
2002-08-23  8:46     ` Jason Merrill
2002-08-23  8:23   ` Jason Merrill
2002-08-23 12:16   ` Diego Novillo
2002-08-23 15:42     ` Daniel Berlin
2002-08-23 17:26     ` Jason Merrill
2002-08-23 17:42       ` Zack Weinberg
2002-08-23 22:25         ` Per Bothner
2002-08-26  0:07           ` Zack Weinberg
2002-08-26  3:07             ` Neil Booth
2002-08-26  3:18               ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2002-08-28  6:50           ` Jason Merrill
2002-08-28 16:42             ` Per Bothner
2002-08-23 22:31       ` Per Bothner
2002-08-26 19:56       ` Diego Novillo
2002-08-29 14:35         ` Richard Henderson
2002-09-03  5:38           ` Jason Merrill
2002-08-26 16:58     ` Paul Brook
2002-08-29 14:21     ` Richard Henderson
2002-08-23 13:01   ` Neil Booth
2002-08-28  4:44     ` Jason Merrill
2002-08-28  5:17       ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2002-08-28  7:10         ` Jason Merrill
2002-08-28  8:02           ` Diego Novillo
2002-08-28  8:32           ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2002-08-28 14:06   ` Jason Merrill
2002-09-10 17:08     ` Gerald Pfeifer
2002-08-29 14:10   ` Richard Henderson
2002-09-03  5:16     ` Jason Merrill
2002-09-04 10:20       ` Paul Brook
2002-08-23 13:53 Robert Dewar
2002-08-23 14:10 ` Neil Booth
2002-08-23 14:14 Robert Dewar
2002-08-23 14:14 ` Neil Booth
2002-08-23 14:35 Robert Dewar
2002-08-23 15:21 ` Neil Booth
2002-08-24  7:59 ` Michael S. Zick
2002-08-23 15:25 Richard Kenner
2002-08-23 15:33 ` Neil Booth
2002-08-23 18:20 Robert Dewar
2002-08-24 12:47 Robert Dewar
2002-08-28  5:03 Robert Dewar

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