From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6039 invoked by alias); 7 Mar 2011 20:52:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 6029 invoked by uid 22791); 7 Mar 2011 20:52:30 -0000 X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (HELO smtp.gentoo.org) (140.211.166.183) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.43rc1) with ESMTP; Mon, 07 Mar 2011 20:52:26 +0000 Received: from vapier.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CDBC1B41F6; Mon, 7 Mar 2011 20:52:25 +0000 (UTC) From: Mike Frysinger To: gdb-patches@sourceware.org Subject: Re: can we avoid using contractions in GDB messages? (was: "[commit] symfile.c (simple_overlay_update): Check for null return.") Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 21:58:00 -0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.6 (Linux/2.6.37; KDE/4.6.0; x86_64; ; ) Cc: Joel Brobecker References: <4D718A22.3020302@vmware.com> <20110307105158.GZ30306@adacore.com> In-Reply-To: <20110307105158.GZ30306@adacore.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1452227.6v1NqtZR1q"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201103071552.00959.vapier@gentoo.org> X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact gdb-patches-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: gdb-patches-owner@sourceware.org X-SW-Source: 2011-03/txt/msg00506.txt.bz2 --nextPart1452227.6v1NqtZR1q Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-length: 1402 On Monday, March 07, 2011 05:51:58 Joel Brobecker wrote: > Just a suggestion. It's really a detail, and I won't push for us >=20 > to adopt this suggestion, but: > > + if (minsym =3D=3D NULL) > > + error (_("Error reading inferior's overlay table: couldn't " > > + "find `_ovly_table' array\n" > > + "in inferior. Use `overlay manual' mode.")); >=20 > I'm not very fond of contractions in error messages (or any message > printed by GDB). I know there is plenty of "prior art" of our use > of contractions in the output, but I just think it looks better to > spell words completely. personally, i think contractions are fine when used correctly. while i am = a=20 lazy english speaker, "should not" makes it sound like a formal statement. = i=20 also just watched a hindi movie where the subtitles were kind of bad, but f= or=20 the opposite reason ... they used contractions everywhere even when native= =20 speakers wouldn't (because it sounds weird). what about "cannot" vs "can not" ? obviously "can't" is out via this new=20 rule, but i don't see a problem with "cannot" ... i think some people read "maybe" as a contraction of "may be", but i see a= =20 subtle difference between them. > For the future, can we agree on avoiding contractions? in order to make it stick, it really needs to be a rule that the autoscanni= ng=20 script checks for (similar to style issues). -mike --nextPart1452227.6v1NqtZR1q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. Content-length: 836 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAABAgAGBQJNdUVwAAoJEEFjO5/oN/WBE7YQAITo79v2Z8W5q/OBCKtowngJ JIggQ6n3h1A1b0vt5A7wzHeldSOpnxlr6HfGNSkaR4N8nE5/3nj1sm8aqnjsOuHQ 4q8YaqgZi7qHEBC3PEYMAFdZDjOyWK+b1IY+ZRSos0uiuUBWaAMDpkX0s4u006wa I10UD2mr0MXKcyUJ6WzWG64xkEGcKMTxAsir6qojynfJz18lYCj4vGhdYaCQqp+y cWEBKeAji1EeV+b23r0PmsyyFiF8vCUrh0LV2ZfS5wEw3pJZCab1kKTpN34aImGl V/0bHCy5pilO3dmftrC6p9FBR58mR4bvTU2JTejk3qk6/xqHAyvbsUbWasxAvxbL 7O9/hKyPlIb1SJmbBKSImbCnTe7763L6kmX9Nz501KvwBixGxtrORFsgINeoyHr8 K3dDSGTR1//lA0pkKR/HsIypRE1w+JpXYZCzb5fCtKxeA743Jv2UIYwvAXHzGsS3 mhB7UJbeZKIsYItktqRVJz6bphTzEmfS6dXwntGnrtYXmvV1hi0GajvwvLqdcMg7 qqCycKmBkMTO5Q0NFPxVys3qufuDCk+vg/s8J6qjyfYVHORebA2RRRJ47KSZJ9QJ rjM5U9Sm7NVvPyPSBJTZ4Kt0Si3bF00uQh9jpSdeWe7TqZVYteTaRf0DFzG77Jao 7vJeYYLJEaloOdYXVs0v =0Fh5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1452227.6v1NqtZR1q--