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From: Pedro Alves <pedro@codesourcery.com>
To: "Ulrich Weigand" <uweigand@de.ibm.com>
Cc: gdb-patches@sourceware.org, jan.kratochvil@redhat.com,
	sergiodj@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [rfc] Options for "info mappings" etc. (Re: [PATCH] Implement new `info core mappings' command)
Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 12:59:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201112051247.59967.pedro@codesourcery.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201111231632.pANGW8Ln008085@d06av02.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com>

Hi Ulrich, sorry for the delay.  I haven't managed to read your patches yet.
I'll reaply here first.

On Wednesday 23 November 2011 16:32:08, Ulrich Weigand wrote:

> I'd really appreciate thoughts / suggestions on whether the above
> drawbacks are acceptable, and which option we should proceed with.

First, the reason Sergio added "info mappings" instead of making
"info proc mappings" work for core files, was that using "info proc"
for cores was objected.  I'm personally okay with it, but I think
that should be understood as not being a limitation of the design.

I have to say that I have reservations on this new TARGET_OBJECT_PROC
option.  It adds yet another generic abstraction (it almost looks like
TARGET_OBJECT_OSDATA reinvented), yet the data it sends over is not
really structured.  This maps nicely on linux, but, e.g, on procfs targets,
you have a bunch of different /proc implementations, it can actually be
awkward, in that you may need to translate whatever the real /proc/pid/foo
gives you into a format gdb expects.  The answer to that seems to be that GDB
will install a gdbarch handler for each OS that understands 
/proc/pid/foo for the target OS, but that means that either or both of core
gdb and the target (can result in weird wrong turns, if we add coping to
both ends) will have to keep up with whatever format changes happen
between OS revisions on the target side instead of being given a
structured, abstracted and simplified view (that could in turn be easily
marshalled in structured form to MI or python, if so desired).  And then
there's no default gdb-side gdbarch implementation, so GDB needs to be
aware of the random embedded OSs to be able to support "info proc foo".  
A structured format means that its definitely the target that gets to keep up.

This is not a NAK, but I'm just saying I'm not fully convinced yet.

-- 
Pedro Alves

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-12-05 12:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-26 21:08 [PATCH] Implement new `info core mappings' command Sergio Durigan Junior
2011-10-26 21:25 ` Sergio Durigan Junior
2011-10-27  7:30   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-27 18:09     ` Sergio Durigan Junior
2011-10-29 19:48       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-31  0:34 ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-10-31  7:00   ` Sergio Durigan Junior
2011-10-31  8:13     ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-10-31 12:57       ` Pedro Alves
2011-11-01 11:54         ` [patch] `info proc ' completion [Re: [PATCH] Implement new `info core mappings' command] Jan Kratochvil
2011-11-01 16:23           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-11-03 14:12             ` [patch] `info proc *' help fix [Re: [patch] `info proc ' completion] Jan Kratochvil
2011-11-03 16:57               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-11-03 17:07                 ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-11-03 18:08                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-11-03 18:25                     ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-11-02 18:30           ` [patch] `info proc ' completion [Re: [PATCH] Implement new `info core mappings' command] Pedro Alves
2011-11-02 18:48             ` [commit] " Jan Kratochvil
2011-11-03 20:01       ` [PATCH] Implement new `info core mappings' command Sergio Durigan Junior
2011-11-04 10:38         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-11-04 16:27         ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-11-08  1:49           ` Sergio Durigan Junior
2011-11-08 21:47             ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-11-09 20:32             ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-11-16  4:10               ` Sergio Durigan Junior
2011-11-21 16:15                 ` Sergio Durigan Junior
2011-11-23 16:32                   ` [rfc] Options for "info mappings" etc. (Re: [PATCH] Implement new `info core mappings' command) Ulrich Weigand
2011-11-23 23:37                     ` Sergio Durigan Junior
2011-12-01 19:51                       ` Ulrich Weigand
2011-12-05 12:59                     ` Pedro Alves [this message]
2011-12-05 15:02                       ` Ulrich Weigand
2011-12-06 16:01                         ` Pedro Alves
2011-12-06 17:19                           ` Ulrich Weigand
2011-12-07 16:29                             ` Pedro Alves
2011-12-07 17:24                               ` Pedro Alves
2011-12-07 20:14                               ` Ulrich Weigand
2011-12-09 13:28                                 ` Pedro Alves
2011-12-09 14:10                                   ` Pedro Alves
2011-12-20 23:08                                 ` Ulrich Weigand
2011-12-21 22:36                                   ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-12-22 16:15                                     ` Ulrich Weigand
2012-01-05 16:02                                   ` Pedro Alves
2012-01-05 18:03                                     ` Ulrich Weigand
2012-01-05 18:20                                       ` Pedro Alves
2012-01-05 19:54                                         ` Ulrich Weigand
2012-01-06  6:41                                           ` Joel Brobecker
2012-01-06 12:29                                             ` Pedro Alves
2012-01-06 12:27                                           ` Pedro Alves
2012-01-09 15:44                                             ` Ulrich Weigand
2012-01-11 16:38                                               ` Pedro Alves
2012-01-11 18:32                                                 ` Ulrich Weigand
2012-01-05 18:37                                       ` Mark Kettenis
2012-01-05 19:35                                         ` Ulrich Weigand
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-04-06  3:28 [PATCH 0/4 v2] Implement support for SystemTap probes on userspace Sergio Durigan Junior
2012-04-06  3:32 ` [PATCH 1/4 v2] Refactor internal variable mechanism Sergio Durigan Junior
2012-04-06  3:36 ` [PATCH 2/4 v2] Implement new features needed for handling SystemTap probes Sergio Durigan Junior
2012-04-11 19:06   ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-04-11 22:14     ` Sergio Durigan Junior
2012-04-11 23:33       ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-04-06  3:37 ` [PATCH 4/4 v2] Documentation and testsuite changes Sergio Durigan Junior
2012-04-06  9:27   ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-04-09 21:37     ` Sergio Durigan Junior
2012-04-06  4:11 ` [PATCH 3/4 v2] Use longjmp and exception probes when available Sergio Durigan Junior
2011-04-04  3:09 [PATCH 4/6] Implement support for SystemTap probes Sergio Durigan Junior
2011-04-04 19:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-04-06 20:20 ` Tom Tromey
2011-04-06 20:52   ` Sergio Durigan Junior
2011-04-07  2:41 ` Yao Qi
2011-04-07  3:32   ` Sergio Durigan Junior
2011-04-07 17:04   ` Tom Tromey
2011-04-11  3:21     ` Yao Qi
2011-04-08 12:38   ` Sergio Durigan Junior
2011-04-11  3:52     ` Yao Qi
2011-08-12 15:45     ` Jan Kratochvil
2011-08-12 17:22       ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2011-08-12 21:33         ` Sergio Durigan Junior
2011-04-19 16:42 ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-05-07 19:36   ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-05-07 19:54     ` Sergio Durigan Junior
2012-05-07 19:58       ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-05-07 20:26         ` Sergio Durigan Junior
2012-05-07 20:38           ` Jan Kratochvil
2012-05-08  1:36             ` Sergio Durigan Junior

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