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From: Joel Brobecker <brobecker@adacore.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [RFA] Fix cygwin compilation failure due to nameless LOAD_DLL_DEBUG_EVENT causes ntdll.dll to be missing
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2013 03:17:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131228031719.GC4532@adacore.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83fvpobsh3.fsf@gnu.org>

> I took some time to test about a dozen of
> the more popular CRT functions that deal with file names and accept
> wchar_t arguments.  Most of them worked with long file names in the
> \\?\ format, but some didn't.

thanks for the thorough research, Eli; that's a pretty useful amount
of data for anyone wanting to tackle these kinds of issues.

I would hate to see it all lost in the mailinglist archives, though.
How about we turn this into either a comment in the code (my prefered
option, most of the time), or a gdbint update (on the wiki), or even
just a wiki page somewhere. We could open, if not already done,
a section dealing with Windows-specific issues.

> 
> First, _wchdir failed consistently with file names longer than 260.
> Which might not be a surprise, since SetCurrentDirectoryW is
> documented to be limited to MAX_PATH characters.  But it does mean
> that any application which wishes to lift the 260-char limitation will
> need to replace chdir and getcwd (and DTRT for each thread).
> 
> Next, _wstat fails for any file name in the \\?\ form, even if it
> doesn't exceed the 260-character limit.  By contrast, FindFirstFileW,
> on which AFAIK the MS implementation of 'stat' is based, has no
> problem with such file names, and works with filenames up to 32K
> characters.
> 
> On Windows XP (but not on Windows 7), _wfullpath also failed for long
> file names.
> 
> The upshot of all this is that it's not enough to just switch to
> wchar_t and \\?\ form of file names, there's some non-trivial support
> code that will need to be written to take advantage of that in any
> sufficiently large application (such as GDB).
> 
> Moreover, even just using Unicode APIs is of questionable value in GDB
> (as in any other console program on Windows), because:
> 
>   . supporting Unicode on the console will need very serious changes
>     in Readline and in ui-*.c modules; without such changes, one can
>     never enter or display file names outside of the current ANSI
>     codepage
> 
>   . the Windows console has very weak support for non-ASCII fonts even
>     when Unicode APIs are used to read and write to the console
>     (basically, anything outside of Europe cannot be displayed)
> 
>   . any external libraries against which GDB is linked are likely not
>     to support Unicode file names or UTF-16 text, so you cannot easily
>     communicate with them without losing Unicode capabilities
> 
>   . suppose you get from a Unicode API, such as GetModuleFileNameW, a
>     file name that cannot be expressed in the current ANSI codepage --
>     what can you do with such a file name in GDB? probably nothing
>     except displaying an error message
> 
> So I think the benefits of switching the MinGW GDB to Unicode APIs are
> questionable, although if someone steps forward and does a clean job
> for that, I'm quite sure the patches will be more than welcome.

-- 
Joel

  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-28  3:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <52ab8d0e.8aa2420a.30ff.ffffd8f1SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2013-12-16 17:13 ` Pedro Alves
2013-12-16 22:50   ` Pierre Muller
2013-12-18 11:20   ` Corinna Vinschen
2013-12-18 15:46     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-18 16:07       ` Corinna Vinschen
2013-12-18 17:03         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-18 17:18           ` Corinna Vinschen
2013-12-18 17:29             ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-18 17:31               ` Corinna Vinschen
2013-12-18 18:19                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-18 19:18                   ` Corinna Vinschen
2013-12-18 20:01                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-18 20:54                       ` Corinna Vinschen
2013-12-19 18:33                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-28  3:17                           ` Joel Brobecker [this message]
2013-12-28  9:02                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-13 22:41 Pierre Muller
2013-12-16  2:21 ` Yao Qi
2013-12-16 18:05   ` Pedro Alves
2013-12-17  0:43     ` Yao Qi
2013-12-17  8:43       ` Pierre Muller
2013-12-18  3:37 ` Yao Qi

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