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From: Joel Brobecker <brobecker@adacore.com>
To: Simon Marchi <simark@simark.ca>
Cc: Tom Tromey <tom@tromey.com>,
	Bernd Edlinger <bernd.edlinger@hotmail.de>,
	Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	Andrew Burgess <andrew.burgess@embecosm.com>,
	"gdb-patches@sourceware.org" <gdb-patches@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] Enable GDB build with in-tree GMP and MPFR
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 06:33:15 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201215023315.GK3461@adacore.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ac617c62-3fcb-d1ae-e375-64eb76489492@simark.ca>

> >>>>>> "Simon" == Simon Marchi <simark@simark.ca> writes:
> >
> > Simon> So with this patch, we now have:
> >
> > Simon>   --with-gmp-include=DIR  GMP include directory
> > Simon>   --with-gmp-lib=DIR      GMP lib directory
> > Simon>   --with-gmp=DIR          GMP install directory
> > Simon>   --with-libgmp-prefix[=DIR]  search for libgmp in DIR/include and DIR/lib
> > Simon>   --without-libgmp-prefix     don't search for libgmp in includedir and libdir
> >
> > Simon> I think that's getting a bit confusing.  That's too many ways to set gmp
> > Simon> paths, with -with-libgmp-prefix and --with-gmp doing the same thing.
> >
> > FWIW we have the same situation with MPFR.
> 
> :(

Yeah, my reaction exactly when Bernd made me discover this problem.
There might be other options in the same category; we should
double-check (busy this week, but I can have a look during the weekend
if noone beats me to it).

> > Simon> It might mean that we have to stop using AC_LIB_HAVE_LINKFLAGS
> > Simon> though, or customize it.
> >
> > Yes.  Perhaps alternatively we could promote its use to the top level.
> > It's maybe a pain to do that.
> 
> Perhaps, but --with-{gmp,mpfr} would need to be kept as backwards
> compatibility.  I think it would be hard to convince the gcc people of
> the benefits of such a change.

Here's a radical question: Do we really need to stay in sync with GCC,
at this point? What are the benefits and requirements of doing so?
Because GCC doesn't coordinate with us when they make changes to
the toplevel configury, we're only going to get into these problems
more.

In fact, how much does the toplevel configure really need to do?
Intuitively, it doesn't really need to do very much, if we ignore
all the stuff that's GCC-specific.

A more relevant conundrum, for me, might be to look at keeping
binutils and GDB in sync in terms of the options being used.

And then we have the question of how to provide users who want to
configure parts or all of binutils-gdb what options they can use,
and what they do. I don't know how easy we can do that via the
toplevel configure's --help. One interesting question is: Would
doing so help us avoid inconsistencies with binutils?

So, as you can see, the question is much larger than just GMP/MPFR.

> > Simon> An alternative to downloading the pre-requisites would be to check them
> > Simon> in the repo.  We do it for readline already: there is a copy in the
> > Simon> repo, which is used by default, but you can specify
> > Simon> --with-system-readline if you want to use the system's readline.  We
> > Simon> could do the same with gmp and mpfr.  The downside is that we deviate a
> > Simon> bit from how gcc does, the the upside is that it's simpler, IMO.
> >
> > For me the main difference here is that, historically, we've had to
> > patch readline.  In cases where GDB has never needed to patch a
> > dependency (libiconv comes to mind), we've haven't bothered.
> 
> Ok, when you put it like that then it doesn't make as much sense to
> check the code in the repo.
> 
> Thinking about it a bit more, I don't see why gmp and mpfr get this
> treatment, what is it that makes them different from other dependencies?
> If you want to build GDB with XML support, you download and build expat,
> or install it using your package manager.  Why can't you do the same
> with mpfr/gmp?  The only reason for us I can see is "because gcc does
> it" and we share the build system with gcc.  But otherwise, I'd just
> tell people to build/install mpfr and gmp themselves.
> 
> Simon

-- 
Joel

  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-15  2:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 140+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-08  6:30 RFA: Add support for DWARF-based fixed point types Joel Brobecker
2020-11-08  6:30 ` [PATCH 1/9] gdb/configure: Add --with-libgmp-prefix option Joel Brobecker
2020-11-08  6:30 ` [PATCH 2/9] gdb: Make GMP a required dependency for building GDB Joel Brobecker
2020-12-15  6:55   ` Sebastian Huber
2020-12-15  8:57     ` Joel Brobecker
2020-11-08  6:30 ` [PATCH 3/9] gmp-utils: New API to simply use of GMP's integer/rational/float objects Joel Brobecker
2020-11-10 20:15   ` Simon Marchi
2020-11-13  8:12     ` Joel Brobecker
2020-11-13 15:04       ` Tom Tromey
2020-11-13 15:06         ` Simon Marchi
2020-11-16 16:18         ` Tom Tromey
2020-11-16 16:34   ` Luis Machado
2020-11-18  3:52     ` Joel Brobecker
2020-11-08  6:30 ` [PATCH 4/9] Move uinteger_pow gdb/valarith.c to gdb/utils.c and make it public Joel Brobecker
2020-11-08  6:30 ` [PATCH 5/9] Add support for printing value of DWARF-based fixed-point type objects Joel Brobecker
2020-11-10 21:06   ` Simon Marchi
2020-11-14 10:48     ` Joel Brobecker
2020-11-14 13:20       ` Simon Marchi
2020-11-14 11:30     ` Joel Brobecker
2020-11-14 16:14       ` Simon Marchi
2020-11-15  5:30         ` Joel Brobecker
2020-11-15  6:33     ` Joel Brobecker
2020-11-16  0:13       ` Simon Marchi
2020-11-08  6:30 ` [PATCH 6/9] fix printing of DWARF fixed-point type objects with format modifier Joel Brobecker
2020-11-10 22:50   ` Simon Marchi
2020-11-08  6:30 ` [PATCH 7/9] Add ptype support for DWARF-based fixed-point types Joel Brobecker
2020-11-10 23:00   ` Simon Marchi
2020-11-15  6:57     ` Joel Brobecker
2020-11-15  7:09       ` Joel Brobecker
2020-11-16  0:16         ` Simon Marchi
2020-11-16  4:03           ` Joel Brobecker
2020-11-08  6:30 ` [PATCH 8/9] Add support for fixed-point type arithmetic Joel Brobecker
2020-11-10 23:18   ` Simon Marchi
2020-11-08  6:30 ` [PATCH 9/9] Add support for fixed-point type comparison operators Joel Brobecker
2020-11-10 23:21 ` RFA: Add support for DWARF-based fixed point types Simon Marchi
2020-11-11  4:53   ` Joel Brobecker
2020-11-15  8:35 ` pushed: " Joel Brobecker
2020-11-15  8:35   ` [pushed/v2 1/9] gdb/configure: Add --with-libgmp-prefix option Joel Brobecker
2020-11-15 15:52     ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-11-16  3:45       ` Joel Brobecker
2020-11-16 14:20         ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-11-17  7:41           ` [PATCH] Enable GDB build with in-tree GMP and MPFR Bernd Edlinger
2020-11-18  3:44             ` Joel Brobecker
2020-11-18  8:14               ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-12-01 19:29                 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-12-01 19:32                   ` Simon Marchi
2020-12-01 19:38                     ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-12-01 20:29                       ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-12-01 20:30                         ` Simon Marchi
2020-12-02  3:21                           ` Joel Brobecker
2020-12-08 20:39                             ` [PING] " Bernd Edlinger
2020-12-14 17:40                         ` [PATCH v2] " Bernd Edlinger
2020-12-14 18:47                           ` Simon Marchi
2020-12-14 21:35                             ` Tom Tromey
2020-12-14 22:17                               ` Simon Marchi
2020-12-15  2:33                                 ` Joel Brobecker [this message]
2020-12-15 14:39                                   ` Simon Marchi
2020-12-15 16:24                                     ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-12-16  7:33                                     ` Joel Brobecker
2020-12-16 18:16                                       ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-12-25 12:05                                         ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-12-27 22:01                                           ` Simon Marchi
2020-12-29  8:36                                             ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-12-29 14:50                                               ` Simon Marchi
2021-01-10 14:12                                                 ` Bernd Edlinger
2021-01-10 15:32                                                   ` Simon Marchi
2021-01-11  3:22                                                   ` Joel Brobecker
2021-01-16 18:01                                                     ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-12-15 15:33                                 ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-12-15 15:10                             ` Bernd Edlinger
2020-11-15  8:35   ` [pushed/v2 2/9] gdb: Make GMP a required dependency for building GDB Joel Brobecker
2020-11-15  8:35   ` [pushed/v2 3/9] gmp-utils: New API to simply use of GMP's integer/rational/float objects Joel Brobecker
2020-11-15  8:35   ` [pushed/v2 4/9] Move uinteger_pow gdb/valarith.c to gdb/utils.c and make it public Joel Brobecker
2020-11-15  8:35   ` [pushed/v2 5/9] Add support for printing value of DWARF-based fixed-point type objects Joel Brobecker
2020-11-15  8:35   ` [pushed/v2 6/9] fix printing of DWARF fixed-point type objects with format modifier Joel Brobecker
2020-11-15  8:35   ` [pushed/v2 7/9] Add ptype support for DWARF-based fixed-point types Joel Brobecker
2020-11-15  8:35   ` [pushed/v2 8/9] Add support for fixed-point type arithmetic Joel Brobecker
2020-11-15  8:35   ` [pushed/v2 9/9] Add support for fixed-point type comparison operators Joel Brobecker
2020-11-16 23:48   ` pushed: Add support for DWARF-based fixed point types Pedro Alves
2020-11-17 14:25     ` Simon Marchi
2020-11-18  3:47       ` Joel Brobecker
2020-11-22 13:12         ` [RFA] Add TYPE_CODE_FIXED_POINT handling in print_type_scalar Joel Brobecker
2020-11-22 14:35           ` Simon Marchi
2020-11-24  3:04             ` Joel Brobecker
2020-11-22 14:00         ` pushed: Add support for DWARF-based fixed point types Joel Brobecker
2020-11-22 20:11           ` Simon Marchi
2020-11-23  4:27             ` Joel Brobecker
2020-11-23 16:12               ` Simon Marchi
2020-11-24  2:39                 ` Joel Brobecker
2020-11-29 15:45               ` RFA: wrap mpz_export into gdb_mpz::safe_export Joel Brobecker
2020-11-29 15:45                 ` [RFA 1/2] Fix TARGET_CHAR_BIT/HOST_CHAR_BIT confusion in gmp-utils.c Joel Brobecker
2020-11-30 15:42                   ` Simon Marchi
2020-12-05  8:05                     ` Joel Brobecker
2020-11-29 15:45                 ` [RFA 2/2] gmp-utils: protect gdb_mpz exports against out-of-range values Joel Brobecker
2020-11-30 15:56                   ` Simon Marchi
2020-12-01  3:37                     ` Joel Brobecker
2020-12-01  4:02                       ` Simon Marchi
2020-12-01  7:11                         ` Joel Brobecker
2020-12-05  8:10                   ` [RFAv2 " Joel Brobecker
2020-12-05 23:26                     ` Simon Marchi
2020-12-06  4:58                       ` Joel Brobecker
2020-11-30 12:44                 ` RFA: wrap mpz_export into gdb_mpz::safe_export Christian Biesinger
2020-11-20 14:08   ` pushed: Add support for DWARF-based fixed point types Pedro Alves
2020-11-20 14:14     ` Joel Brobecker
2020-11-22 11:56   ` RFA/doco: Various changes related to GMP and fixed point type support Joel Brobecker
2020-11-22 11:56     ` [RFA/doco 1/4] gdb/NEWS: Document that building GDB now requires GMP Joel Brobecker
2020-11-22 15:31       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-24  3:11         ` Joel Brobecker
2020-11-22 11:56     ` [RFA/doco 2/4] gdb/NEWS: Document that GDB now supports DWARF-based fixed point types Joel Brobecker
2020-11-22 15:33       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-24  3:12         ` Joel Brobecker
2020-11-22 11:56     ` [RFA/doco 3/4] gdb/README: Document the --with-libgmp-prefix configure option Joel Brobecker
2020-11-22 15:32       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-24  3:11         ` Joel Brobecker
2020-11-22 11:56     ` [RFA/doco 4/4] gdb/README: Fix the URL of the MPFR website (now https) Joel Brobecker
2020-11-22 15:33       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-24  3:11         ` Joel Brobecker
2020-11-15  8:49 ` RFA: Various enhancements to the fixed-point support implementation Joel Brobecker
2020-11-15  8:49   ` [RFA 1/6] change gmp_string_asprintf to return an std::string Joel Brobecker
2020-11-16  0:41     ` Simon Marchi
2020-11-16  3:55       ` Joel Brobecker
2020-11-16 20:10         ` Simon Marchi
2020-11-15  8:49   ` [RFA 2/6] gmp-utils: Convert the read/write methods to using gdb::array_view Joel Brobecker
2020-11-16  0:52     ` Simon Marchi
2020-11-16 23:05       ` Pedro Alves
2020-11-17 14:32         ` Simon Marchi
2020-11-15  8:49   ` [RFA 3/6] gdbtypes.h: Get rid of the TYPE_FIXED_POINT_INFO macro Joel Brobecker
2020-11-15  8:49   ` [RFA 4/6] Make fixed_point_type_base_type a method of struct type Joel Brobecker
2020-11-15  8:49   ` [RFA 5/6] Make function fixed_point_scaling_factor " Joel Brobecker
2020-11-15  8:49   ` [RFA 6/6] valarith.c: Replace INIT_VAL_WITH_FIXED_POINT_VAL macro by lambda Joel Brobecker
2020-11-16  1:01   ` RFA: Various enhancements to the fixed-point support implementation Simon Marchi
2020-11-22 11:14   ` RFA v2: " Joel Brobecker
2020-11-22 11:14     ` [RFA v2 1/6] change and rename gmp_string_asprintf to return an std::string Joel Brobecker
2020-11-22 11:14     ` [RFA v2 2/6] gmp-utils: Convert the read/write methods to using gdb::array_view Joel Brobecker
2020-11-22 11:14     ` [RFA v2 3/6] gdbtypes.h: Get rid of the TYPE_FIXED_POINT_INFO macro Joel Brobecker
2020-11-22 11:14     ` [RFA v2 4/6] Make fixed_point_type_base_type a method of struct type Joel Brobecker
2020-11-22 11:14     ` [RFA v2 5/6] Make function fixed_point_scaling_factor " Joel Brobecker
2020-11-22 11:14     ` [RFA v2 6/6] valarith.c: Replace INIT_VAL_WITH_FIXED_POINT_VAL macro by lambda Joel Brobecker
2020-11-23 16:46     ` RFA v2: Various enhancements to the fixed-point support implementation Simon Marchi
2020-11-24  2:56       ` Joel Brobecker

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