From: Joel Brobecker <brobecker@adacore.com>
To: Pedro Alves <pedro@palves.net>
Cc: Philippe Waroquiers <philippe.waroquiers@skynet.be>,
gdb-patches@sourceware.org,
Joel Brobecker <brobecker@adacore.com>
Subject: Re: [RFA] Fix/complete option list/description in manual and in gdb --help.
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2021 16:19:03 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210801231903.GA488201@adacore.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a50fea1e-081a-0323-3a56-f3232e26a06b@palves.net>
> > +Many options have both long and short forms. Short options start with
> > +@samp{-}, and long options start with @samp{--}. @value{GDBN} also
> > +recognizes the long forms if you truncate them, so long as enough of
> > +the option is present to be unambiguous. > If an option requires a
>
>
> Should we actually describe this long vs short option distinction? It isn't
> actually correct.
>
> Short options in getopt programs are one letter options that you can combine
> in a single '-'. For example "ls -als" vs "ls -a -l -s".
>
> In GDB, you can't do that with the "short" options. GDB uses getopt_long_only.
>
> "gdb -qf" is not the same as "gdb -q -f"
>
> In GDB, the supposedly short options can also be specified with --, we install
> long options for all them as well. Well, again, we use getopt_long_only.
>
> These are the same:
>
> gdb -q
> gdb --q
>
> Or these two:
>
> gdb -f
> gdb --f
>
> etc.
>
> Also, some options listed with single dash, supposedly indicating "short" option, like -ex here:
>
> --eval-command=COMMAND, -ex
>
> aren't really short options. They are more than one character long, and they work
> with both "-" and "--":
>
> gdb -ex CMD
> gdb --ex CMD
>
>
> Instead what we have, is I think:
>
> All options can be specified with - or --. GDB recognizes (all, short and long if you must) options if
> you truncate them, so long as enough of the option is present to be unambiguous. For some options,
> GDB recognizes a shorter form even if it would be ambiguous with some other options.
>
> So I wonder whether the direction should be the opposite, document all options with single '-'
> consistently throughout?
>
> I have to say that I never use = with "long" options, do you? I found it a bit weird to document
> that as the canonical form, but maybe that's just me.
>
> > -@item -init-command @var{file}
> > +@item -init-command=@var{file}
>
> This one missed the '-' -> '--'.
>
> > @itemx -ix @var{file}
> > @cindex @code{--init-command}
> > @cindex @code{-ix}
> > @@ -1032,7 +1048,7 @@ Execute commands from file @var{file} before loading the inferior (but
> > after loading gdbinit files).
> > @xref{Startup}.
Fascinating... I had never realized that this.
I really don't have a real preference about what the cannonical form
should be. My initial reaction was that the typical format for long
options is with '--'. But then I thought of the single-letter "long"
options like "q"; do we really want to promote "--q"? It does make it
clear that this is indeed a single-letter option name, and that it's
not to be combined with other such single-letter options. But I do
not think this is sufficient to justify emphasizing "--q" over "-q",
knowing that this will steer people towards the longer option. I know
we're talking nano-gains in terms of efficiency, but for me, -q is
cleaner and more efficient.
If we think as long-time GDB users, I think the simplest is to
start the help and documentation by explaining that, for all
options, we treat -OPTION and --OPTION exactly the same. And then
document the -OPTION version.
But, if people think we should make an effort to conform better
to more traditional argument handling, we could, in addition to
the doc about -OPTION and --OPTIONS, chose the following approach:
- For all options that are single-letter, use the single-dash form.
- For all multi-letter options, use the double-dashes form.
--
Joel
prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-08-01 23:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-06-11 19:26 Philippe Waroquiers
2021-06-12 10:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-17 10:23 ` Pedro Alves
2021-06-20 20:58 ` Philippe Waroquiers
2021-08-01 23:19 ` Joel Brobecker [this message]
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