From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com (us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com [170.10.133.124]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B13D3858D20 for ; Wed, 30 Aug 2023 19:15:14 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.2 sourceware.org 5B13D3858D20 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=redhat.com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=redhat.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=redhat.com; s=mimecast20190719; t=1693422914; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=v5EVeZrMjic/QX0dwc0477sGxXToa5GYU//JVo9ugeg=; b=CM4JWvRUly+H5iToaqbSS/Fbso4xa+UnRELqkHEGfebB+Krl6zYJmIt3VNHLq/J1VctewF LxP1RMTwgYn/AlBKrvQNxjqUFHBEfQdMx4Yxcn5CIb3MzhEQbosQkn68EYgijfhK1zD7A5 4cTWja9fbJoGK+sq8mOYslV7RR/EfSg= Received: from mimecast-mx02.redhat.com (mimecast-mx02.redhat.com [66.187.233.88]) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP with STARTTLS (version=TLSv1.2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id us-mta-670-mxLyT6QgMqW1NiIatUG59A-1; Wed, 30 Aug 2023 15:15:10 -0400 X-MC-Unique: mxLyT6QgMqW1NiIatUG59A-1 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx06.intmail.prod.int.rdu2.redhat.com [10.11.54.6]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mimecast-mx02.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0D31A805AF6; Wed, 30 Aug 2023 19:15:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from f37-zws-nv (unknown [10.22.16.35]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 912AA2166B25; Wed, 30 Aug 2023 19:15:09 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 12:15:08 -0700 From: Kevin Buettner To: Tom Tromey Cc: gdb-patches@sourceware.org, Pedro Alves Subject: Re: [RFC] Deprecate stabs Message-ID: <20230830121508.142ac7e9@f37-zws-nv> In-Reply-To: <87sf802zhi.fsf@tromey.com> References: <20230119174156.654402-1-tom@tromey.com> <0d183bc4-8c59-ac65-91c3-3477e7bb2546@palves.net> <87sf802zhi.fsf@tromey.com> Organization: Red Hat MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 3.1 on 10.11.54.6 X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-Originator: redhat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_NONE,TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org List-Id: On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 11:48:09 -0600 Tom Tromey wrote: > >> I think it's time to deprecate stabs, and plan to remove all support > >> for them. Stabs are long since obsolete and are not really maintained > >> in gdb. GCC deprecated them in 12 and will remove them as well. > > Pedro> Meanwhile, half a year passed, and GCC 13 is out. > > Pedro> My position with stabs for years had been that, as long as GCC needs it for some ports, > Pedro> we should keep it. Since GCC has since removed support for stabs, I think we're now > Pedro> free to remove it too. > > Pedro> I think we should mark stabs deprecated for GDB 14. We can discuss more when to actually > Pedro> remove it, but IMO, the sooner we mark it deprecated, the sooner people will be aware of our > Pedro> intentions. FWIW, I do support removing it in GDB 15. > > It's maybe a little late for 14/15 now. > > I'm thinking I will send email to gdb@ and push the NEWS patch after the > 14 branch is made. That is, deprecate in 15 and remove in 16. I'm in favor of this timeline. Kevin