From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 47803 invoked by alias); 15 Dec 2017 14:48:27 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gdb-patches-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: gdb-patches-owner@sourceware.org Received: (qmail 47757 invoked by uid 89); 15 Dec 2017 14:48:25 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,SPF_HELO_PASS,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 spammy=reaction, investigations, quality X-HELO: mx1.redhat.com Received: from mx1.redhat.com (HELO mx1.redhat.com) (209.132.183.28) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with ESMTP; Fri, 15 Dec 2017 14:48:24 +0000 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0FD2EC004766; Fri, 15 Dec 2017 14:48:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (ovpn04.gateway.prod.ext.ams2.redhat.com [10.39.146.4]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 507FB18AA5; Fri, 15 Dec 2017 14:48:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [BuildBot] Notifications disabled for Debian-s390x-* and Fedora-ppc64*-* builders To: David Edelsohn , Sergio Durigan Junior References: <87d13g6r5t.fsf@redhat.com> <878te46pk4.fsf@redhat.com> Cc: GDB Patches , Edjunior Machado From: Pedro Alves Message-ID: <3808c9ac-450e-3d53-d5c6-ddd7f4b8d1df@redhat.com> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2017 14:48:00 -0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SW-Source: 2017-12/txt/msg00378.txt.bz2 On 12/15/2017 02:34 PM, David Edelsohn wrote: > I believe that the GDB buildbots should be useful to the GDB community > and I appreciate your efforts to maintain it. > > But the irony in your message should not be ignored. You implicitly > express that the buildbots are ignored, except possibly x86 and Try > Builds on x86, while you proceed to ask for additional participation. > This is fundamentally inconsistent. Actions speak louder than words > and this demonstrates the priorities of the GDB community. I think there must be some misunderstanding here. IIUC, the problem with the builders is not related at all to the quality of the PPC64 or s390 gdb ports. The problems are something else beyond GDB's control, they're network, oversubscription, etc. problems, something like that. The builder machines have simply not been able to exercise their basic function stably enough, in turn causing problems for developers, instead of helping. What can the community, as in, GDB maintainers, do, then? I for one have no idea what I (just a developer) can do here. I think that the best course of action is to disable reporting while investigations proceed, which I understood it being exactly what is being done here. I don't think Sergio deserved the reaction. Thanks, Pedro Alves