From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 869 invoked by alias); 9 Oct 2014 22:07:48 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gdb-patches-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: gdb-patches-owner@sourceware.org Received: (qmail 842 invoked by uid 89); 9 Oct 2014 22:07:47 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-HELO: mx1.redhat.com Received: from mx1.redhat.com (HELO mx1.redhat.com) (209.132.183.28) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with (AES256-GCM-SHA384 encrypted) ESMTPS; Thu, 09 Oct 2014 22:07:46 +0000 Received: from int-mx13.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx13.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.26]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s99M7hV4027837 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL); Thu, 9 Oct 2014 18:07:43 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (ovpn01.gateway.prod.ext.ams2.redhat.com [10.39.146.11]) by int-mx13.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s99M7fsS008152; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 18:07:42 -0400 Message-ID: <5437072D.6070006@redhat.com> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2014 22:07:00 -0000 From: Pedro Alves User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jan Kratochvil CC: Doug Evans , "gdb-patches@sourceware.org" Subject: Re: time to workaround libc/13097 in fsf gdb? References: <5411CFAE.7040805@redhat.com> <20140912115452.GA5626@host2.jankratochvil.net> <5412E3AC.80203@redhat.com> <20140912123320.GA8704@host2.jankratochvil.net> <5412EB1F.40309@redhat.com> <20140917201049.GA22880@host2.jankratochvil.net> <541C3FCF.4000400@redhat.com> <20140920195017.GA5931@host2.jankratochvil.net> <54215700.30402@redhat.com> <20141009200907.GA29881@host2.jankratochvil.net> In-Reply-To: <20141009200907.GA29881@host2.jankratochvil.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SW-Source: 2014-10/txt/msg00227.txt.bz2 On 10/09/2014 09:09 PM, Jan Kratochvil wrote: > On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 13:18:24 +0200, Pedro Alves wrote: >> Let me remind you that I'm still on the C++ camp. > > You are newly in the C++ camp. You were blocking C++ for GDB before. Yes. Fact. For anyone else following at home, this is where I disclosed that I had changed my mind: https://sourceware.org/ml/gdb/2013-08/msg00026.html I reserve the right to discuss, learn from past mistakes, and change my mind. >> Last we discussed this, I suggested that we should have a wiki page >> describing the project, > > You suggested something different: > "I do believe we're better off staying in C land, at least for > a couple years more." > https://sourceware.org/ml/gdb/2012-04/msg00063.html Well, that's not the "last we discussed this" I was referring to. We last discussed this in person, this last January, in the team meeting which you attended as well, where (among many things) we discussed what would need to be done to move along with the GDB-in-C++ project. > I am aware you changed your opinion but this mail looked as if you were always > C++ proponent which is not true. I never tried to hide that. Adding more info to the wiki, like e.g., pointers to existing branches and patches would be much more useful than this "you said I said" finger-pointing. I've extended it now some more with some info I wanted to add, but hadn't found time to yet. Thanks, Pedro Alves