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From: Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, Jan Kratochvil <jan.kratochvil@redhat.com>
Cc: brobecker@adacore.com, yao@codesourcery.com,
	gdb-patches@sourceware.org,        ktietz@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [patch] compile: Fix MinGW build  [Re: [mingw rfc] Add mkdtemp to gdb/gnulib/]
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 20:34:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5491E8C4.502@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83r3vyul89.fsf@gnu.org>

On 12/17/2014 07:31 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 20:17:55 +0100
>> From: Jan Kratochvil <jan.kratochvil@redhat.com>
>> Cc: brobecker@adacore.com, yao@codesourcery.com, gdb-patches@sourceware.org,
>>         ktietz@redhat.com
>>
>>>> linux-tdep.c:
>>>>   set_gdbarch_infcall_mmap (gdbarch, linux_infcall_mmap);
>>>
>>> Why is mmap needed here?
>>
>> The project obviously needs something like:
>> 	(gdb) call dlopen("just compile piece of code.so");
>>
>> But as dlopen() is intrusive to the inferior Tom decided it is better to do
>> much less intrusive
>> 	(gdb) print mmap(...)
>>
>> instead and reimplement what inferior dlopen() does
>> in gdb/compile/compile-object-load.c - which is being done.
> 
> Why is dlopen "intrusive"?

Pasting here what I said recently on a glibc thread, re. reasons
for not using dlopen for this.

Off the top of my head, I'm sure there are more:

 - The user might want to evaluate an expression while the program itself
   has just called dlopen and is now stopped inside it.  This pesky dlopen
   recursion thing.    It's best if GDB only calls async-signal
   safe functions behind the scenes, if possible.  Of course if the
   injected expression involves calls to async-signal unsafe code that breaks
   the inferior, the user gets what she asked for.

 - The program might have not been linked with -ldl.

 - I suspect there may be issues with messing with symbol resolution
   and self library walks in the inferior too.  Not sure if RTLD_LOCAL is
   enough.  dlmopen might be a better fit, but hmm, that isn't very
   well supported in GDB/glibc.

 - A lower level mechanism has much better chances of working on
   more targets and runtimes-of-languages-other-than-C with minimal
   changes.

> ISTM that using the Windows equivalent of dlopen is exactly the right thing here.

That may well be, though I think that it's better if "info shared"
doesn't show the modules injected into the inferior, which using LoadLibrary
(Windows's dlopen) would give you.


Note that set_gdbarch_infcall_mmap doesn't need to implement the
whole feature set of mmap.  We only need to be able to carve out a
piece of memory.  Should map trivially to VirtualAlloc.


I expect that we'll end up using this same gdbarch hook to allocate
memory in the inferior when we need to coerce variables to the inferior.
We currently call "malloc" for that, which isn't ideal in the sense
that the inferior can well be already inside malloc when we do that,
leading do deadlock or corruption.

Thanks,
Pedro Alves

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-12-17 20:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-23 19:27 [PATCH v4 00/14] let gdb reuse gcc's C compiler Jan Kratochvil
2014-11-23 19:27 ` [PATCH v4 01/14] introduce ui_file_write_for_put Jan Kratochvil
2014-11-23 19:27 ` [PATCH v4 04/14] add make_unqualified_type Jan Kratochvil
2014-11-23 19:27 ` [PATCH v4 03/14] add some missing ops to DWARF assembler Jan Kratochvil
2014-11-23 19:27 ` [PATCH v4 02/14] add gcc/gdb interface files Jan Kratochvil
2014-11-23 19:28 ` [PATCH v4 07/14] add gnu_triplet_regexp gdbarch method Jan Kratochvil
2014-11-23 19:28 ` [PATCH v4 08/14] introduce call_function_by_hand_dummy Jan Kratochvil
2014-11-23 19:28 ` [PATCH v4 10/14] make dwarf_expr_frame_base_1 public Jan Kratochvil
2014-11-23 19:28 ` [PATCH v4 13/14] add s390_gcc_target_options Jan Kratochvil
2014-11-23 19:28 ` [PATCH v4 12/14] add linux_infcall_mmap Jan Kratochvil
2014-12-15 12:41   ` Ulrich Weigand
2014-12-15 13:49     ` Yao Qi
2014-12-15 16:48       ` Jan Kratochvil
2014-12-16  5:27         ` Yao Qi
2014-11-23 19:28 ` [PATCH v4 11/14] export dwarf2_reg_to_regnum_or_error Jan Kratochvil
2014-11-23 19:28 ` [PATCH v4 05/14] add dummy frame destructor Jan Kratochvil
2014-11-23 19:28 ` [PATCH v4 09/14] split dwarf2_fetch_cfa_info from dwarf2_compile_expr_to_ax Jan Kratochvil
2014-11-23 19:28 ` [PATCH v4 06/14] add infcall_mmap and gcc_target_options gdbarch methods Jan Kratochvil
2014-11-23 19:29 ` [PATCH v4 14/14] the "compile" command Jan Kratochvil
2014-12-14  6:05   ` Yao Qi
2014-12-14  7:53     ` Jan Kratochvil
2014-12-14  8:54       ` Yao Qi
2014-12-14 18:24         ` [mingw rfc] Add mkdtemp to gdb/gnulib/ [Re: [PATCH v4 14/14] the "compile" command] Jan Kratochvil
2014-12-15  3:16           ` Yao Qi
2014-12-15 12:44             ` Joel Brobecker
2014-12-15 13:11               ` Kai Tietz
2014-12-15 13:24               ` Yao Qi
2014-12-15 17:12               ` Jan Kratochvil
2014-12-15 17:48                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-15 18:14                 ` Joel Brobecker
2014-12-15 18:21                   ` Jan Kratochvil
2014-12-15 18:35                     ` Joel Brobecker
2014-12-15 18:40                       ` Jan Kratochvil
2014-12-15 18:57                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-15 22:28                           ` [patch] compile: Fix MinGW build [Re: [mingw rfc] Add mkdtemp to gdb/gnulib/] Jan Kratochvil
2014-12-15 22:56                             ` Jan Kratochvil
2014-12-16  3:40                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-16  9:04                                 ` Kai Tietz
2014-12-17 21:02                                   ` [patch] compile: rm -rf -> ftw()+rmdir()+unlink() [Re: [patch] compile: Fix MinGW build] Jan Kratochvil
2014-12-17 22:07                                     ` Steve Ellcey
2014-12-17 22:42                                     ` Pedro Alves
2014-12-18 18:14                                       ` Jan Kratochvil
2014-12-18 18:24                                         ` Pedro Alves
2014-12-18 18:41                                           ` Jan Kratochvil
2014-12-18 19:07                                             ` Pedro Alves
2014-12-18 21:05                                               ` Jan Kratochvil
2014-12-18 21:11                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-18 21:24                                                   ` Jan Kratochvil
2014-12-18 22:18                                                     ` Sergio Durigan Junior
2014-12-18 23:06                                                     ` Pedro Alves
2014-12-19  0:12                                                       ` Jan Kratochvil
2014-12-19 10:48                                                         ` Pedro Alves
2014-12-19  8:24                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-19 12:59                                             ` Joel Brobecker
2014-12-18 20:26                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-18  5:38                                     ` Yao Qi
2014-12-18 17:23                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-18 17:31                                       ` Jan Kratochvil
2014-12-18 17:40                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-18 20:15                                           ` Kai Tietz
2014-12-18 20:47                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-18 20:55                                               ` Kai Tietz
2014-12-18 23:47                                             ` Pedro Alves
2014-12-19  9:28                                               ` Kai Tietz
2014-12-19 19:25                                               ` Jan Kratochvil
2014-12-19 20:55                                                 ` Jan Kratochvil
2014-12-20 12:26                                                 ` Joel Brobecker
2014-12-18 20:56                                     ` Sergio Durigan Junior
2014-12-17 17:30                                 ` [patch] compile: Fix MinGW build [Re: [mingw rfc] Add mkdtemp to gdb/gnulib/] Steve Ellcey
2014-12-16  3:37                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-16  9:06                               ` Kai Tietz
2014-12-17 19:18                               ` Jan Kratochvil
2014-12-17 19:31                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-17 19:37                                   ` Jan Kratochvil
2014-12-17 20:34                                   ` Pedro Alves [this message]
2014-12-18 17:22                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-18 18:00                                       ` Pedro Alves
2014-12-16 12:40                             ` Pierre Muller
2014-12-17 18:21                               ` Jan Kratochvil
2014-12-17  1:22                             ` Yao Qi
2014-12-17 10:57                               ` Pedro Alves
2014-12-17 11:40                                 ` Yao Qi
2014-12-17 11:43                                   ` Pedro Alves
2014-12-17 11:56                                     ` Yao Qi
2014-12-17 19:15                                     ` Jan Kratochvil
2014-12-17 11:16                             ` Pedro Alves
2014-12-17 18:17                               ` [patchv2] " Jan Kratochvil
2014-12-17 18:33                                 ` Pedro Alves
2014-12-17 19:12                                   ` [commit] " Jan Kratochvil
2014-12-05 18:29 ` [patch 15/14] GDB/GCC compile function pointers [Re: [PATCH v4 00/14] let gdb reuse gcc's C compiler] Jan Kratochvil
2014-12-12 21:51   ` obsolete: " Jan Kratochvil
2014-12-12 14:40 ` [PATCH v4 00/14] let gdb reuse gcc's C compiler Pedro Alves
2014-12-12 21:46   ` [commit all 14 parts] " Jan Kratochvil

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