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From: Pedro Alves <palves@redhat.com>
To: "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@codesourcery.com>
Cc: Yao Qi <yao@codesourcery.com>, gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] MIPS: Handle the DSP registers for bare metal
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 11:40:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54AA780E.6080106@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.10.1412301141560.19155@tp.orcam.me.uk>

On 12/30/2014 12:10 PM, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Dec 2014, Pedro Alves wrote:
> 
>>> > >  I'm not sure offhand whether the piece of patch proposed you refer to 
>>> > > here is correct or not, but the overall scope of this and the other patch 
>>> > > Yao has mentioned yet outstanding is support for legacy bare-metal RSP 
>>> > > stubs that have no notion of target descriptions and may even predate 
>>> > > GDB's support for these descriptions, and yet they want to make all 
>>> > > processor registers available for inspection and modification by GDB.  
>>> > > This code comes from MIPS UK and dates back to early 2000s and I think it 
>>> > > would be good having it upstream so that standard GDB can talk to these 
>>> > > stubs.  The fixed layout of the g/G packet and corresponding p/P packet 
>>> > > offsets have been set by the bare-metal SDE toolchain years ago.
>> > 
>> > The way to handle that is still through target descriptions -- if a
>> > target doesn't send a target description, GDB maps known layouts to built-in
>> > target descriptions.  See mips_register_g_packet_guesses.

>  Register probing Yao mentioned is still needed, because in this fixed 
> packet format the whole set of architecturally defined register slots is 
> exchanged with the RSP stub, e.g. 8 * 32 = 256 CP0 registers, 8 * 32 = 256 
> CP2 registers, etc. (as documented by the change to mips-tdep.h proposed), 
> even if some are not present, e.g. not all CP0 register slots have already 
> been allocated in the architecture so far and the vast majority of them is 
> optional.

That's orthogonal.

> 
>  The information on which registers are present and which are not will not 
> be supplied by the target and has to be determined by gradual discovery, 
> that is poking at registers as they are determined to be present, i.e. 
> first CP0.PRId that is always there, then CP0.Config0 if present, then 
> CP0.Config1 if present, and so on.  Gaps will be present in the packets 
> exchanged for the absent registers as with the ACX registers discussed 
> previously.

> 
>  And if we were to define built-in target descriptions for the possible 
> variants of present register sets, then, as noted by Yao, we hit the issue 
> of having to make some 2^50 templates (slightly fewer actually, as there 

That'd be silly of course, but it's also not what I meant.  The built-in
description is used for the case of a legacy stubs that does not report a
target description, and those stubs you say use a fixed register layout.
So we're talking about _one_ built-in target description that describes
that fixed register layout.

> are some dependencies between the presence of some registers, e.g. you 
> can't have a processor that has a CP0.Config2 register, but does not have 
> CP0.Config1, the reverse is allowed; similarly a CPU can't have the ACX 
> register when it does not have CP0.Config3) which is of course beyond 
> technical capabilities as e.g. a 32-bit host will have fewer bytes of 
> addressable memory even.

>  NB `mips_register_g_packet_guesses' is not necessarily relevant here as 
> there may be registers accessible through the stub via the p/P packets 
> only and not included in the g/G packet layout for performance reasons 

If existing/legacy stubs are doing that in practice, then we can
make gdb pick the fallback description (in case in target doesn't
provide one) depending on selected osabi.

> (the packet may be shorter than the maximum defined) as to transfer all 
> the registers through a JTAG link every time the target is stopped may be 
> exceedingly slow, especially when single-stepping.

For the single-stepping case, the fix should be to include
all the registers GDB needs to compute whether the step finished
directly in the expedite stop reply, though.

Thanks,
Pedro Alves

  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-05 11:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-18 13:26 Yao Qi
2014-12-18 17:28 ` Pedro Alves
2014-12-19  3:55   ` Yao Qi
2014-12-19 11:18     ` Pedro Alves
2014-12-19 13:22       ` Yao Qi
2014-12-19 15:07         ` Pedro Alves
2014-12-30  1:15       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2014-12-30 10:12         ` Pedro Alves
2014-12-30 12:11           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2015-01-05 11:40             ` Pedro Alves [this message]
2015-01-07 15:11               ` Maciej W. Rozycki

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