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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
To: Ales Novak <alnovak@suse.cz>, Doug Evans <dje@google.com>
Cc: Kieran Bingham <kieranbingham@gmail.com>,
	       gdb-patches <gdb-patches@sourceware.org>,
	       Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] Add SLAB allocator understanding.
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2016 07:22:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56B05931.9050705@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LSU.2.03.1602020243520.5343@suse.cz>

On 2016-02-02 03:05, Ales Novak wrote:
> On 2016-2-1 23:29, Doug Evans wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 5:21 AM, Kieran Bingham
>> <kieranbingham@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> This is interesting work!
>>>
>>> I had been discussing how we might achieve managing this with Jan @
>>> FOSDEM yesterday.
>>>
>>> I believe a python implementation of this could be possible, and then
>>> this code can live in the Kernel, and be split across architecture
>>> specific layers where necessary to implement handling userspace
>>> application boundaries from the Kernel Awareness.
>>
>> Keeping application specific code with the application instead of gdb
>> is definitely a worthy goal.
>> [one can quibble over whether linux is an application of course,
>> but that's just terminology]
> 
> Yeah, you're right. Yet if we're talking about the SLAB in particular -
> considering with how many objects simultaneously has this subsystem to
> cope, I'm afraid that adding any extra overhead (e.g. the Pythonish)
> will be just painful.
> 
> It's a pitty that gdb cannot be extended dynamically, afaics.

First, don't be too sceptical before some has tried this. And then there
are still options for optimizations, either on the language side (C
extension to our Python modules, also in-kernel maintained) or more
efficient interfaces for gdb's Python API.

It's definitely worth exploring this first before adding Linux kernel
release specific things to gdb, which is going to be even more painful
to maintain.

Jan

-- 
Siemens AG, Corporate Technology, CT RDA ITP SES-DE
Corporate Competence Center Embedded Linux

  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-02  7:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-31 21:45 Enable gdb to open Linux kernel dumps Ales Novak
2016-01-31 21:45 ` [PATCH 4/4] Minor cleanups Ales Novak
2016-01-31 21:45 ` [PATCH 2/4] Add Jeff Mahoney's py-crash patches Ales Novak
2016-02-01 12:35   ` Kieran Bingham
2016-02-01 22:23   ` Doug Evans
2016-02-02  2:56     ` Jeff Mahoney
2016-02-02  8:25       ` Kieran Bingham
2016-02-03 17:55       ` Jeff Mahoney
2016-02-03 18:31         ` Doug Evans
2016-02-03 19:29           ` Jeff Mahoney
2016-02-04 17:25           ` Petr Tesarik
2016-02-04 18:32             ` Matt Rice
2016-02-04 22:27             ` Doug Evans
2016-01-31 21:45 ` [PATCH 3/4] Add SLAB allocator understanding Ales Novak
2016-02-01 13:21   ` Kieran Bingham
2016-02-01 22:30     ` Doug Evans
2016-02-02  2:05       ` Ales Novak
2016-02-02  7:22         ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2016-02-02 13:22           ` Petr Tesarik
2016-02-02 14:42             ` Jeff Mahoney
2016-02-02  8:11       ` Kieran Bingham
2016-02-02 10:04     ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-01-31 21:45 ` [PATCH 1/4] Create new target "kdump" which uses libkdumpfile: https://github.com/ptesarik/libkdumpfile to access contents of compressed kernel dump Ales Novak
2016-02-04 12:40   ` Pedro Alves
2016-02-04 12:45     ` Ales Novak
2016-02-01 11:27 ` Enable gdb to open Linux kernel dumps Kieran Bingham
2016-02-01 11:51   ` Kieran Bingham
2016-02-01 14:32     ` Ales Novak
2016-02-01 15:01       ` Jeff Mahoney
2016-02-02  9:12         ` Kieran Bingham
2016-02-10  3:24         ` Jeff Mahoney

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