From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 82404 invoked by alias); 25 Apr 2019 05:39:30 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gdb-patches-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: gdb-patches-owner@sourceware.org Received: (qmail 82396 invoked by uid 89); 25 Apr 2019 05:39:30 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-3.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 spammy=HContent-type:plain, HContent-type:text, HContent-type:charset, Emacs X-HELO: eggs.gnu.org Received: from eggs.gnu.org (HELO eggs.gnu.org) (209.51.188.92) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with ESMTP; Thu, 25 Apr 2019 05:39:29 +0000 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:44883) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hJX6S-0002pb-TH; Thu, 25 Apr 2019 01:39:24 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3143 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1hJX6S-0006LV-0q; Thu, 25 Apr 2019 01:39:24 -0400 Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2019 05:39:00 -0000 Message-Id: <83h8am1w5i.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_P=F6nitz?= CC: palves@redhat.com, brobecker@adacore.com, gdb-patches@sourceware.org In-reply-to: <20190424201322.GB19677@klara.mpi.htwm.de> (message from =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9=09P=F6nitz?= on Wed, 24 Apr 2019 22:13:22 +0200) Subject: Re: [RFA 2/2][master only] gdb/windows-nat.c: Get rid of main_thread_id global References: <20190417173842.GA14817@adacore.com> <83wojseb9c.fsf@gnu.org> <20190417221729.GA5839@adacore.com> <9c75d158-6a73-d414-4cb2-17297d4576c6@redhat.com> <20190419204326.GA9601@adacore.com> <20190422152327.GA10697@klara.mpi.htwm.de> <7f39cca0-c200-430e-e885-32cc347207d0@redhat.com> <20190422214607.GA2372@klara.mpi.htwm.de> <83bm0x5ksj.fsf@gnu.org> <20190424201322.GB19677@klara.mpi.htwm.de> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-IsSubscribed: yes X-SW-Source: 2019-04/txt/msg00507.txt.bz2 > Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 22:13:22 +0200 > From: André Pönitz > Cc: palves@redhat.com, brobecker@adacore.com, gdb-patches@sourceware.org > > To be honest, I have still difficulties to find a mental model on what > irks a typical Windows users. On one hand, they can apparently stand > developing on that platform, on the other hand, two lines of extra > output, even issued for consistency reasons, appear to be a show > stopper. That was sarcasm, I guess? In any case, I'm not sure why you think developing for Windows in the relevant use cases is something that needs some super-natural endurance capabilities: I develop using Emacs, GCC, Binutils, GDB, Grep, Find, and all the other tools you are familiar with. It's very similar to developing on a Posix platform. GDB doesn't support debug info in formats emitted by Windows compilers, it only supports GCC-emitted info, AFAIK. And two lines of extra output you don't expect are not a show-stopper, but they do make you stop and think for a moment whether this is something your code did.