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From: Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
To: Gary Benson <gbenson@redhat.com>
Cc: Mark Kettenis <mark.kettenis@xs4all.nl>,  gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Demangler crash handler
Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 18:22:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ppjhilni.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140513102223.GC17805@blade.nx> (Gary Benson's message of "Tue,	13 May 2014 11:22:23 +0100")

* Gary Benson:

>> It would be more reliable to run the demangler in a separate
>> process.
>
> Agreed.  There are two issues though.  First is performance:
> GDB can demangle a lot of symbols--starting GDB on LibreOffice
> demangles more than 369,000 symbols on my machine, and typing
> "b <Tab><Tab>" demangles 2,740,000 more--so the IPC overhead
> has to be seriously low.

Is most of the demangling of the bulk kind?  These cases are easy in
the sense that a ping-pong between the two processes is avoidable.

More worrisome would be the occasional demangling as part of other
tasks, where the context switches might become very visible.

>> What's so difficult about fixing the demangler?
>
> It's not so difficult really, but fixes take time to diagnose,
> reproduce, fix, test, review, etc.

I was referring to a more permanent fix, not just patching the bug of
the day as users encounter it.

> During that interval the user cannot use GDB to debug their program.
> This patch is about allowing the user the possibility of getting
> their work done.

I suppose I could run the demangler on all symbols in Fedora and
downstream and see what breaks.  Would that help?

  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-13 18:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-09 10:07 Gary Benson
2014-05-09 10:09 ` [PATCH 1/2] " Gary Benson
2014-05-09 10:10 ` [PATCH 2/2] " Gary Benson
2014-05-09 11:20 ` [PATCH 0/2] " Mark Kettenis
2014-05-09 15:33   ` Gary Benson
2014-05-11  5:17     ` Doug Evans
2014-05-13 10:20       ` Gary Benson
2014-05-13 19:29         ` Tom Tromey
2014-05-14 13:07           ` Gary Benson
2014-05-13 19:39         ` Tom Tromey
2014-05-14  9:15           ` Gary Benson
2014-05-11 20:23     ` Mark Kettenis
2014-05-13 10:21       ` Gary Benson
2014-05-13 16:05         ` Pedro Alves
2014-05-15 13:24           ` Gary Benson
2014-05-15 14:07             ` Pedro Alves
2014-05-15 14:28               ` Gary Benson
2014-05-15 15:25                 ` Pedro Alves
2014-05-16 11:06             ` Pedro Alves
2014-05-10 20:55   ` Florian Weimer
2014-05-11  5:10     ` Doug Evans
2014-05-13 10:22     ` Gary Benson
2014-05-13 18:22       ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2014-05-13 18:42         ` Pedro Alves
2014-05-13 19:16           ` Gary Benson
2014-05-13 19:19             ` Pedro Alves
2014-05-14  9:11               ` Gary Benson
2014-05-13 19:20           ` Florian Weimer
2014-05-13 19:22             ` Pedro Alves
2014-05-13 19:22         ` Gary Benson
2014-05-13 19:36           ` Tom Tromey
2014-05-14  9:13             ` Gary Benson
2014-05-14 14:18     ` Pedro Alves
2014-05-14 16:08       ` Andrew Burgess
2014-05-14 18:32         ` Pedro Alves
2014-05-15 13:25           ` Gary Benson
2014-05-15 16:01             ` Pedro Alves
2014-05-15 13:27       ` Gary Benson
2014-05-20 17:05       ` Tom Tromey
2014-05-20 18:40         ` Stan Shebs
2014-05-20 19:36           ` Tom Tromey
2014-05-20 20:23             ` Joel Brobecker
2014-05-22 12:56               ` Gary Benson
2014-05-22 13:09                 ` Joel Brobecker
2014-05-22 14:13                 ` Pedro Alves
2014-05-22 15:57                   ` Gary Benson
2014-05-22 13:18           ` Gary Benson
2014-05-22 14:09         ` Gary Benson
2014-05-22 14:40           ` Mark Kettenis
2014-05-22 20:42             ` Gary Benson

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